Suggestion for supplimentary service for 36/Weekday Peaks

service_238 SG

Suntec = 36
Shenton Way = 196/196e
Suntec =/= 196

I personally experienced the journey time between a S14 VO and a S36 Mk4 DM3500 during off peak hours from TG Katong Rd/Mountbatten junction to Esplanade junction is the same. So technically speaking, 36 reaches Suntec Carrefour first before 196.

36 covers more of Suntec than 196 and people are just darn lazy to cross overhead bridges so wait long long if you want people to take the "strengthened sv196".

I seriously dont understand what do you mean by strengthened 196. 196 didnt have fleet addition in recent times. So strengthened in terms of what? frequency? its still 10-14min u know.

Even if there's 196, why would people take 36 instead of 196 to MP?

1. 36 has express sector, 196 doesnt. This creates a perception of the commuters that 36 is faster than 196 but in actual fact the difference in the travelling time under normal traffic conditions is about 5min only. Laughing

2. 36 covers more of suntec. Just look at where people board and alight you will know already. Mr 1688 you said you know your 36 loads so can are you able to tell me where do people board and alight at Suntec wrt S36?

Bus Bunching is inevitable. As you know Orchard Rd is a bloody killer. Some drivers buay zai so they dont dare chiong and thus behind schedule.. Others zai enough chiong and yet still on schedule. it may seem that the frequency is 3-6min but you never think what's the frequency before the bus bunching? Its at least 20min!

36 uses 12 buses (excluding the S3 bus in the morning) on weekdays, and 11 on weekends. There's no fleet addition on weekends. Its just that the perm buses were not in service, that's all. Dont argue with me the fact that its not the case. Go and sit at Mountbatten Rd for 1.5 hours and count the buses that run in both directions and you will know what I mean.

service_238 SG

Go ahead if you wanna waste another 10-12min of your time. However, you are talking about boarding from Suntec, then you see your luck or your gut feel. Sometimes the 2nd 36 will take 6-8min to come instead of 4-5min. (Assumption based on 1st bus behind schedule and 2nd bus on schedule)

Acx1688 SG

Dun wish to argue here but...

try taking sv36 from town bac to Marine Parade during EVENING peak. The bus is already 3/4 full even b4 it hits SiCEC. The loading will be mainly at SICEC bs instead of Carrefour BS coz no1 can board.
Y i advocate pax to move to sv196 during evening peak is due to the jam on slip road ECP and on ECP itself.
The jams on ECP will wear everyone out. The Express sector is just a "perception" during evening peak coz slow moving traffic is on ECP evday.
so sv196 or sv14 is still faster.
I will not argue with u on sv36 weekend/Public Hols fleet.
las qn, for urself do you stay in e EAST or frequently take buses yo the east fr Suntec/Orchard Area coz me/my fren do it daily.

choww SG

Am i right to say that sv196 have more stops than sv36 from marine parade to suntec?And sv36 stops directly at the door step of suntec while sv196 still must walk? Rolling Eyes

sBs_boy SG

2nd Question.. Yes.. for 196.. You still need to walk.

payne SG

Implement another new bus service starting from Upper East Coast bus terminal to HarbourFront bus terminal passing through Suntec and Orchard Road. Maybe it can help to solve the overcrowding. DDs can be used along the bus route during peak hours. There is also no direct bus connection from Marine Parade to Harbourfront and Vivo City. The suggestion may help to solve the overcrowding and provide new direct linkage to Harbourfront. Very Happy

carbikebus SG

And where to park @ HBF??S408/409 Lots?

Volvo Olympian SG

I think Harbourfront Terminal is too full already.

Acx1688 SG

I agree with you but sv10 currently pasts Upp East Coast thru Suntec to Harborfront. In addition,sv10 has been partially strengthened with add DD buses from ex 12,147,196 svcs.
Upp East Coast to Suntec/Orchard, the strengthened sv14 fleet, SBS9267Y,SBS9290X, SBS9443Y
SBST reply to ur MArine Parade to Vivocity, "As far as we would like to provide you with a direct svc to Harbourfront, however, it's not feasible..."

Acx1688 SG

Yes, however, the time taken depends on the traffic conditions and the time u take the bus.
In the morning till 8.30am esp on Sats/Sun/PHs, sv196 can be quite fast arrive Suntec 2-3mins aft sv36 reach SICEC Cool

SBS9889U SG

How about comparing 16 and 36 during PM Peak from Orchard to Marine Parade?

Acx1688 SG

Dun suggest tt, both svcs will be stuck at Orchard Rd/Bras Basah Rd due to heavy traffic n bus loadin/unloading. timing will be e same
When sv16 goes to Nicoll Highway, it will be ok but watch out for events at National Stadium, the extra route near Kallang Airport n being stuck at Joo Chiat coz of inconsiderate car owners! journey time from Nicoll Highway to MArine Parade Rd[near CC] will be 25-30 mins
sv36 will be the same due to HEAVY Traffic on ECP and the turning into Mountbatten Rd from Tanjong Katond Rd. min 2 traffic lights change

105090 SG

the meridian bus stop best Laughing

anyway 36 frequency kinda very bad nowadays.. last time very fast

Acx1688 SG

Orchard Rd light up and the opening of Centrepont extension is causing lotsa problems with cars trying to turn into carpark and taxis trying to pick up passengers. sv36 frequency is boosted by SBS2627E and SBS2721R, quite ok at the moment...

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