Volvo 3axle in SLDEP... Post Update here. Thanks

Scania SG

Aren't VO2xes VOs?

Scania SG

eh try SMRT ones nowadays they tend to speed up, dunno why, think save labor costs.

Donavan SG

Oh yes, forgot about them, LOL. Personally didn't take MANY VO2x, nothing to say. Smile

Donavan SG

Originally posted by SBS1985C:

The ratting on the Scanias cannot be helped since Scania Chassis have been known that they tend to rattle. However... their MK IVs are better than BB ones. I do not understand why but BB MK IV always seems to rattle when I take them... EG SBS 1943 Z. As for their Aircon... BNDEP Scanias lose to SLBP Merc. But I still think BNDEP [b] NAC MERCZ (In the past) with the Townlink livery are the best Mercz.... I wonder where they are now... (I know they are CAC... but are they in AMDEP or SLBP?)[/b]

They tend to rattle? Weird. If there are some which don't rattle as bad as the rest, WHY? Smile

Oh yes, and to add for BRAM, poor maintenance of Scanias.
Add for MK IVs. You suay. But MK IVs OVERALL maintenace for all depots are equally bad. Quite preposterous, but MANY rattle, throughout ALL depots. Perhaps the only thing they did right with the MK IVs were to refurbish them. Smile

Strange we never talked about MK IIIs in all depots? All depots MK III also cannot make it. Those who don't agree can rebut. Horrible suspension that gets worse after each bump. Don't talk about the Voith gearbox, but the legroom didn't receive much improvement, and yes, since those depots which have many MK IIIs have many MK IVs also, it seems that the MK IIIs look sorely neglected. Sad case.

Regarding bodyworks, Volgren bodyworks are known for their horrifying rattling. On SMRT Mercs it rattles, a WA or DM on SBST Merc doesn't rattle. Volvo B10BLE CNG or Diesel with Volgren bodywork was a nightmare and remains as a nightmare. Imagine Volgren + Scania (like what you said, tends to rattle). Good luck to those attempting to sleep on the window pane.

What I have to admit however is that SL still has very strong reliability that looks unmatched. Smile So far I have only seen the tow truck in JE once, and that was regarding a Svc 66 BN MK II.

Tow trucks in Clementi were much more common, towing out regular VO3x, MK III. Shows how reliable bbdep is. Yes, and the sheer number of reports on hgdep and bndep buses under "Accident and Breakdown Thread". Quite scary for a world class public transport system, don't you think?

Scania SG

They only have 4 AC Scanias.

If you are saying about the NACs, then I would say that they do a better job than bndep.

Scania SG

Mk3s, absolute piece of shit with their Voith, the best Mk3 is PH1869Y, manual gear.

The thing which causes the Scanias and DAFs to vibrate is the Voith gearbox.

Donavan SG

Hmmmm, perhaps, perhaps. Smile

The A/C Scanias don't look well-maintained.

The NACs, well I must try a few from each side.

Judgements do change.

But I still feel in SBS Transit no depot seems to have maintained the B10M (especially MK IV, when the fanbelt story started, or MK III, when the Voith Gearbox story started) or N113 to the best of their standards yet. See how SBS Transit does to the B9TLs. (but there's already signs of rattling even before it hits 1 year old?!) There has been as least 1 accident and 3 breakdowns reported for B9TLs.

Agree?

Donavan SG

SMRT L113CRLs WA Strider and ELBO do poorly too, with ZF Gearbox. They rattle. Though I have personally NEVER taken an ELBO before, my friends all complained about its rattling power.

The LOs and VOs are free from rattling. (most of them). Even if they do rattle it's limited. Good job for SBST on both LOs and VOs.

Scania SG

Most of the B9TLs are manufactured in 2005, while 7300P is manufactured in 2002.

PT21 SG

Hello Guys

I open this tread is for u all to update what are the recently transferred buses of VO3X to SLBP. not all of the fucking crap of nonsenses here. U all Understand..

Scania N113CRB luver SG

Are you sure that bodywork qualities are the main cause of rattlings? I think that even if the bodywork is of top and excellent quality, but the chassis rattles alot, the bus will still rattle. It is just like your computer chassis, your casing is the best, but your CPU fan and hardisk vibrates alot during usage, you will feel the casing vibrating, no matter how good ur casing is. The most important is that the chassis MUST NOT RATTLE, which is caused by the engine. Btw are the VO3x at SLDEP 1st.2nd or 3rd versions? I like the 3rd versions, they have nut-guards(which are very cool, cooler than the B9TLs') And do they have a 285hp or a 245hp engine, can anyone tell me?

SBS1985C SG

Chassis.... Depending on the Chassis and mantainence....

Which MK II broke down on S 66.... can remember the rego? Is it a WA or DM MK II?

off_service SG

Scanias had bodyworks too light for their powerful engine hence the vibration.

carbikebus SG

A bit off topic

Having experiences driving inside all SBS Transit & SMRT Buses depot and contacts there,I dare to says..Based on Notice i saw
Based on Monthly performance(October)
SBS Transit
Reliability Breakdown Accident Customer Complains Bus Maintenance
AMDEP 85% 54% 21% 12% 84%
ARBP 64% 75% 9% 35% 67%
BBDEP 47% 79% 38%(S170 20%) 39% 56%
BNDEP 70% 54% 20% 44% 68%
BRBP 61% 47% 10% 15% 71%
HGDEP 59% 62% 10% 20% 67%
SLBP 54% 51% 8% 13% 79%

Overall after several years,I do notice that SLBP has drastically changed from a "Karung Guni" Depot to a standard one,More buses are spotted with badges even after repainted.Less complains on air-con problems,Leakage,Kudos to the Technical crews and management there!

stooper SG

Yeah! I sometimes get surprised with that! Previosuly buses had no badges, but then later, you see a badge on it!

Examples I remember are 6942T, 6949A, 298J, 3736S, 3737P (3736S/3737P is very obvious)

One strange thing is that, on LOs, why is it always the "Ley" part of the Leyland badge that breaks off? Quite a number of buses only have the "land" part of Leyland! I haven't see a bus with the "land" broken off yet...

Scania SG

Maybe the reason why some Volvo buses at some of the depots seem to have holes beside badges, means that there was an older badged fixed. Also many of the Mercs in amdep have O.305 badges.

iveco SG

Especially the DM ones like 486H.

iveco SG

You mean the CRBs with Alexander PS or CRLs with the Strider range?

BTW, why weren't there any DM body kits for Scanias? Even the Dennis Lances had Alexander PS (UK & HK) and Strider (UK - Arriva Merseyside) bodywork, although all the Dennis buses in SG come with DM body.

off_service SG

I do think all 3 bodyworks, Alexander PS, Strider and ELBO are too light, hence the vibration. I do feel the only body that will no vibrate to badly would be using sturdy bodies such as those on UDs, or use the engine on DDs (Like DRBs).

carbikebus SG

That;s why i feel that the importance of having SBST/SMRT staff in the forum,At least they get first hand feedback from bus fans!!

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