NAC fleets set to retire 6 years later - ZB Sunday

hisoka SG

there's continued complaining because nothing is done of course if it was changed we wont be complaining about it will we?

oh yeah and stop whining about us complaining

Apex-LW'21 SG

It is expected to be ready in 2010. Wink

Apex-LW'21 SG

I also hope that NAC buses will extinet in the near future, even JIS will also be FAC! Laughing

supremebull SG

then tell them to continue their complaining through the official channels. not here. of course nothing is changed since they are obviously not even complaining the right way!

sBs_boy SG

Even if you complain.. ?? Whats the use of it... ?? thats the problem of Singaporeans.. Only know how to complain... have you ever asked yourself.. ? If they have the chance.. will they be deploying the NACs.. ? NO.. it only make them lose money (AC buses charged higher fares).

SBS9818A SG

You complain when they put NAC buses on a service.
Ok, then the bus company puts AC buses on that service and may have to buy more AC buses.
Then the company raises fares to fund the new buses.
And then people COMPLAIN when the bus fares go up.

It's a f.ucking vicious cycle. When will people learn to get over it?

SGEMP SG

Why do they age faster than the AC counterparts from wear and tear?

And well what about the CACs?

Apex-LW'21 SG

due to friction, the NAC counterparts resulted in wear and tear.
IMO, CACs counterparts lasts longer.

Apex-LW'21 SG

Stop the argument, and pls continue with the topic or the moderators will slapped both of you with bans. Enough is enough.

hisoka SG

more than 2 pple go and see properly anyway i also lazy to argue

sBs_boy SG

Seriously.. if you guys wanna argue about this issue.. pls do it somewhere else.. be it the PM system of MSN or whatever.. i think that the Mods are happy if that is done so in the very first place.. we dont welcome ppl who argue about small little things..

Apex-LW'21 SG

Anyway, AC buses are comfortable than NAC buses, people nowadays don't take NAC buses to CBD. Smile

gohby SG

You are complaining inefficiently and unproductively. If you want to complain, then write in to the ST Forums. That would be more effective than complaining here yeah. We are not controlling the bus companies. So we cant do much either.

The presence of NAC buses is due to the shortage of buses which SBS Transit is facing due to the introduction of so many services lately (43 52 57 58 59, etc) Would you rather have NAC, useable buses in operation on the roads, or the bus companies to introduce those services at a later date because of a few are whining they they do not want NAC buses on the roads?

No one is whining about you complaing. In fact, its rather apparent that you are the one whining.

gohby SG

BTW, not everyone thinks that AC buses are more comfortable than NAC buses. I am sure ther are people who prefer NAC buses due to nostalgic purposes. So what if its more comfortable? OUr hands are tied. The bus company is currently facing shortage of buses, so what you expect? Rolling Eyes

hseochin SG

Indeed SBST 158 has been downgraded, over the years !!!!
Used to be 100% M-B O 405 then the Volvo B10M took over, with their vastly inferior suspension ride comfort especially over the underground line construction areas along Paya Lebar Road, where one's backside gets tossed like hell, with hard jolts thru the spine !! From O 405 to B10M, of course it's an (uncalled for) downgrade, no doubts about it !

Fortunately there's still some O 405 deployed on SBST 28, so that there's still a superior class of travel even @ higher speed over those stretches of lousy roads !

kc_leung SG

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SBS1908B SG

An interesting and long-drawn debate. Personally, I would prefer the NACs to be spread out on more svcs, but of course, I doubt it would be feasible. I dislike NACs on very hot, or rainy days, so by spreading the NACs out, it will be like playing Blackjack, waiting for AC buses when I wish to. Laughing

sinicker SG

can't they use the NACs at night only? after the PM peak to end of operations.. this is the time when most don't mind taking an NAC. Mr. Green

SBS3688Y SG

I ever thought of this too. But I think it may be too troublesome due to deployment problems. The BCs need to drive the AC buses back to the depot and then get the NAC bus for night deployment; which lasts for only a few hours. Furthermore, they need to top-up diesel, check-in/check-out the buses, washing, maintenance etc. Also, there's less buses running at night, while the rest gradually returns to its respective depots. That's why its more convenient to deploy the bus either for the whole day or for peak-hours only.

105090 SG

NAC age faster because of wear and tear, and also because the interior also exposed to the environment. Some more some drivers likes to "abuse" NAC buses in some way like slamming doors etc..

Overall, the windows plays a large part on aging.. pity.. going to miss them..

NAC buses are great to ride at night or on cold days.. can also feel the natural climate, see the outside clearer, and no ads to block

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