SBST ordered new buses to replace Mark twos

last SG · 2005-01-16T09:18:31+00:00

1701 was the first DM-bodied Mk II in the entire fleet. Altogether, 5 WA and 5 DM Mk IIs were retired on 9 June.

tranquilice SG

But MK3s cannot be used on JIS because JIS are NAC services (unless SBST converts JIS to PAC or FAC in the years to come).

sBs_boy SG

If you notice, after the w/d of Mk2s, there are only 2 types of NAC buses in SBST's Fleet.. VO2x and CRBs.. So.. IMO, its only a matter of time when they decides to convert it into PAC pr FAC using buses like Mk3s.. since there are lots of them having SP statues rite now...

tranquilice SG

SBST fleet is being progressively convert into all air con buses. But before the VO2x are gone, I think JIS will still remain NAC or at most PAC.

muziq bus SG

I have been travelling on the JiS for quite some time... it is quite warm and humid during the hot weather. I do hope these V02x will be converted...but i noe it is impossible...coz the workers boarding these services would not like to pay the ac charges Laughing

^tamago^ SG

no. technically, VO2x cannot be converted to air-con as it will need a third axle to support the additional weight of the air-conditioning unit.

iveco SG

Originally posted by ^tamago^:

no. technically, VO2x [b]cannot be converted to air-con as it will need a third axle to support the additional weight of the air-conditioning unit.[/b]

Then what about the former SBS VO2Xes in UK? Are they NAC or CAC? Anyway, the B7TL only has 2 axles. Some Tridents in UK also do not have the third axle.

Superbus SG

UK double-deckers do not need to be the 3-axle versions simply because they do not need to be airconditioned.

sbst275 SG

Then why the Volvo B7TL can be 2x?

Superbus SG

Please read the post before yours. Read it twice, thrice, more if deemed necessary.

tranquilice SG

In the years to come, air con DDs will definately be deployed on JIS.

^tamago^ SG

yes. the VO2x's on JIS will eventually be replaced by LO3x's.

as for the 2 VO2x's in UK, here are their info courtesy of our Australian spotter:

SBS7204J
Operator: First Glasgow
leet No: 30107
Rego: K174 EUX
VIN: SLVYNF213RC025277
Seating Configuration: H44/32F
Body No: 2493/004
ex First Manchester, and First Pennine.

SBS7251Y
Operator: Metroline
Fleet No: AV39
Rego: M650 ELA
VIN: SLVYNF210RC025415
Seating Configuration: H42/26D
Body No: 9305/007

"Both units were acquired in August 2000 from [then] SBS.

"I finally got a pic [not available here] of AV39 after many months trying to find it and I also got to have a ride... the seats are the same from its Singapore Bus Service days when it was registered SBS7251Y (rego no is the fleet number), although re-upholstered in cloth (which was far nicer than the cruddy vinyl they originally came with). It also retains the longitudinal seats over the rear wheelarches and the red BUS STOPPING sign and the handrail behind the upper deck windscreen, and the big-arse gutters above the top deck windows. Its days being governed to 35mph [60kph] have totally screwed the vehicle, it was a real shed to ride (although Voith Olympians are usually shockers to ride anyway). I must say, the single pane windows with the odd hopper window make it a tonne nicer to look at than the tropical windows with the three horizontal bars across the windows for body protrusion prevention (although it didn't quite redeem the lack of power, and rather noticeable turbo lag this bus had). Still, I was glad to get a pic, and now that I do, it can be either scrapped, sold or repainted."

SBS9810X SG

They have two axles because there is no need for the buses to be air conditioned.Imagine a 700+kg aircon at the rear of a 2 axle bus. Twisted Evil

iveco SG

Surely British (and European) buses have central heating, do they? Temperatures drop really low in winter.

Anyway, is the First Glasgow VO2X formerly regoed 7204 or 7206? Some folks say it is the latter.

sBs_boy SG

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Superbus SG

The buses has heaters installed.

However, I have been informed that there was a number of air conditioned, Royale-bodied 2-axle Volvo Olympians, almost identical to our Volvo Olympian Superbuses, operated by Airbus in London.

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iveco SG

So that means the heating system weighs less than the air-conditioning system. Anyway, the VO2X looks similar to many of those found in HongKong.

IsIsTRD SG

It is 7204. former SBST VO2x ,rego 7251 was the 2nd bus exprted to UK.

supremebull SG

What type of air conditioning system do they use? for the VOs to have 2 axles only and be Air conditioned means the air con system used in the UK is different from those used in Singapore? Perhaps something with less 'cooling power' due to climate differences?

^tamago^ SG

i think they can dun use air-con at all over there, from the photos i've seen of buses over there.

and it's 7204J, not 7206D. 7206D is now on service 252.

Windy_hates_B10TLs SG

Yusry and Suhirman,

Yes, they have a 6.33L engine. hseochin can also confirm this, I'm sure, since he is also pretty specced up on the buses. It is the equivalent of putting the 1.2L engine from a Lancer into a Tank! I personally find the build and finish of the Citaros pretty bad...a Custom Coaches CB60 body would be much more suitable, with the lower plastic content. The suspension is a little harsh, compared to the O.405, but the B12BLE is a vast improvement on previous Volvo air suspension. Even the Hino RM197K has a tiny 6.8L engine. The RM230 has a larger engine which sounds like it means business. the CM has a 13 litre naturally aspirated engine.

The Citaro's width is some 5mm wider than the standard citybus. The O.303s with the Mannheim bodies are very nice, and being a firm believe in the V8 engines they produce, I am disappointed at the lack of V8 option in the Australian market for the O.500RF coach chassis. I am even more disappointed at the lack of hub reduction, although the hypoid rear axle will make a similar (though quieter) whirring noise.

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