service 852

ah-soh SG

is it true that because 852 duplicates the route between Boon Lay and Bukit Batok with 178 thus making it to be shortened to Bukit Batok interchange during 1996? if so why they don't shorten 178 instead of 852? Confused

iveco SG

Not really. It duplicates 951 between BNL and BBT West Ave 3, not 178.

kc_leung SG

They nearly scrapped 852 totally. Sad

^tamago^ SG

Not true. 852 plies Boon Lay Way while 178 plies Corporation Rd.

852 was originally slated to be withdrawn in 1996 after Woodlands Extension opened as commuters in Yishun can now take the MRT to reach Bt Batok, Chinese Garden, Lakeside and Boon Lay, stations which Service 852 previously served.

However, there was a public outcry about missing links between Yishun and Bt Timah when the withdrawl was announced, and then-Tibs decided not to withdraw Service 852 on the proposed date, but instead shortened it to Bt Batok since the route between Yishun and Bt Batok is not being duplicated by any MRT line (except Yio Chu Kang & Yishun, but that's out of context).

Apex-LW'21 SG

In 1986, Svc 852 plies between Yishun Ave 5 Terminus and Jurong Interchange.
In 1987, when Yishun Int opened, Svc 852 terminates at the new interchange.
In Jul 1990, Svc 852 extended to Boon Lay when Jurong Int closed.
In 10/3/1996, Svc 852 cutback to Bt Batok during the Woodlands MRT rationalisation exercise. Originally to be withdrawn.

iveco SG

Was 852 ever a KJDEP-AMDEP joint venture? I remember WA-bodied DAFs ever served on this route before.

Apex-LW'21 SG

In year 2000 or 2001, it is a KJDEP-AMDEP joint venture. WA bodied DAFs were served on 852 before. (TIB724C was the one)

ah-soh SG

thanks for everyone's info Very Happy

so the old 852 route between Boon Lay Interchange and Jurong Town Hall Road is the same as current service 180?

^tamago^ SG

Yes.

SBS3688Y SG

I remembered svc 852 used to be partial air-con ard the mid-80s. Its was using the Nissan U31SCN with Fuji air-con buses. But was later converted back into fully NAC service. Was svc 852 the first Tibs partial A/C svc?

Apex-LW'21 SG

TIB279X & TIB280R were the first 2 aircon buses in TIBS fleet. TIBS 852 was a PAC in 1988.

ah-soh SG

so service 852 is the first TIBS service to use aircon bus? Confused

samtlk SG

Thought its 259 & 260?

Should be. I used to purposely wait for it whenever I took 852 from Jurong Int to Yishun Int.

SBST390 SG

wrong... 1st aircon tibs svc is 850[/url]

Apex-LW'21 SG

BUS GUIDE 1988 shows Tibs has AIRCON 852. I don't remember 850 has Aircon buses.

Apex-LW'21 SG

Svc 852 uses 2 AIRCON Nissan Diesel U31SCN buses, used as NAC bus before withdrawal in 1995.

259 & 260 is NAC bus, not Aircon bus.

SBST390 SG

fyi, yours truly had lived in YIS since 1984... and also have been reading the bus guide since then.

850 was accorded aircon status with the Nissans somewhere in 86 or 87 IIRC. have distinct memories of it as then it was still 850 and 851 operating from the temp roadside terminal.

Apex-LW'21 SG

SVC 850 & 851 from Yishun Ctrl Ter & SVC 800 & 801 from Yishun Ave 5 Ter in 1985. SBS MB OF1417s were also used to ply TIBS services as TIBS had shortage of buses then.

demag_ac SG

TIB 146 to TIB 250 were Hino HT228 Buses with Hino Body, non Air Con.

TIB 251 to TIB 278 were Nissan Diesel U31SCN with Fuji body, non Air Con.

TIB 279 and TIB 280 were the first 2 Air Con Nissan Diesel busse with Fuji Body and Fuji Air Con, which is IBCU-050.

TIB 281 to TIB 310 were either Nissan Diesel U31SCN or R87, but if I am not wrong, they are all R87, with Fuji body, Non Air Con. If you have Bus Guide 1992, you can see the R87 on the cover, with black headlights cover. The U31RCN from TIB318 to TIB336 has silver rectangle cover.

TIB 311 to TIB 317 were the next 7 buses that TIBS bought with AC, they are all Nissan Diesel U31SCN with Fuji Body and IBCU-050 AC.

TIB 318 to TIB 336 were Nissan Diesel U31SCN with Fuji Body, Non Air Con.

TIB 337 to TIB 361 were Hino HT238 with Hino Body, non Air Con.

TIB 380 to TIB 389 were Hino HT238K with Hino body and unknown AC. Half of these buses were converted to non AC and then they were transferred to SSB. These buses served on Service 950 if my memory is correct.

TIB 390 was a Nissan Diesel U31SCN with Fuji Body and Fuji IBCU-050 AC.

All the AC buses (TIB279, TIB280, TIB 311 to TIB317 and TIB 390) once served on Service 852. I can't remember which service was the first to be PAC, so I will defer to SBST390's memory that Service 850 was the first.

When TIBS started buying MBO405 with Hispano body in bulk, and Introducing them progressively from Nov 1994, TIBS started the conversion of the original AC Nissan Diesel into Non AC. What they did was simply disabled the AC controller and opened up the windows. I'm not sure whether the AC on top was gutted out or not.

After that, TIBS bought TIB391 to TIB 404, DAF SB220 with Hispano Body (with the Service numbers on the left Hand Side of the LED display), and TIB 405 to TIB 424, which was the same, just that the LED display shows the service number on the right hand side. All the DAF buses served on Service 950, 951 and 952 before being converted to SSB buses.

ah-soh SG

Is it possible to lure 852 back to Boon Lay as to provide a link between Boon Lay and Marymount area?