New Console on SBS180P

Yusry SG

Hi,

I noticed an additional console in SBS180P as shown in the photo below. Anyone knows what this console is for?

^tamago^ SG

it is a system being tested on selected SBS Transit services (i only noe Svc 88 so where is 180P from?) whereby the console checks whether the driver is following his trip schedule closely or not. it uses the current position of the bus & compares it with the schedule to determine if the driver had drove too fast or too slow. from my observations, it is 5 mins faster or slower it will beep loudly once, and the same for 10, 15, 20 mins and so on. so far there are varying indications on the console screen. pulling into pasir ris int, it once showed “+45” and another time it showed “+10”.

service_238 SG

This console can be found on all my 238 buses (if i'm not wrong) and a few other buses which cameos on 238. One would be SBS 0391 Y. not sure abt the regular cameos on my signature Confused

carbikebus SG

Hmm,Sv 24 @ Changi Airport Terminal right?

Yusry SG

Is this console supposed to update the farestages too? Or is it more like the scrapped SBS On Time project?

On SBS180P, the GPS does not seem to be updating the farestages as the bus driver is manually updating it.

service_238 SG

If we assume that this console has GPS, it is able to update the farestage automatically. I heard from one SBST staff that 238 506 and one eastern bus (forgotten which one) does not need to update their farestage as the system updates itself.

24 is not part of this project.

xin1jun2 SG

GPS project by sbst.

the project intiated in 2002 was a trial. it was put on trila on svc 54 and 238 buses. some other buses from akdep were invloved.

this is the 2nd gps trial they had

if u recall the first one was on svc 132.

at any rate sbst announces that the gps sytem ran into problems..lolz..the entire project was canned except the VLS function. VLS is now under trials still

the headset shd now be redundant. meanwhile SBS180 is a svc 24 bus

ZYX

^tamago^ SG

i suppose it's 88. it's the only svc where every bus i've boarded till now uses the console and actually works with LCD on & beeping alerts. but i dun see the IDFC updating itself with the GPS data available.

for Tibs, they use a GPS receiver made by ERS Transit (the Australian company tat supplied the whole ez-link system) tat will update the IDFC with the current position. tis silver console, about the size of a computer mouse, is located right behind the driver's seat on Hispano O405's and some other buses too.

actually, it makes more sense putting the GPS radio chip right inside the IDFC since i dun think it interferes with the WiFi radio chip inside. much easier to do things.

Scania SG

The buses of the following services have this system (using a grey console):
24 (All) , 88 (All), 238 (All 8, excluding cross-over buses), bram SPs(0099S, 0127U, 0169Z, 0173K), amdep VLS trial buses ( 322Y (now on 105), 364B) and some 55 and 133 bus

The buses of the following services have this system (using a black (System by Orbital) console):

54 (All) and SBS 145S of Service 28

I do not really know whats the use of those console but I do know buses need not have the console to operate their VLS systems, I've took buses of Sv 153 and 966 in which the drivers need not touch the IDFC (The blue fare console we see on all revenue service buses) and their fare stage changes by it self, I can tell you that for Service 966 (towards Woodlands), it changes to stage 35.0 right after entering PIE by the Whitley road (CJC) enterance without the driver pressing the IDFC, the system that transmits the infomattion for farechanging should be somewhere at the back of the drivers seat and is transmitted via the antenna of the bus to the stallite in space back to the bus

carbikebus SG

This makes more sense.

SBS9818A SG

Sv. 24 and Sv. 54 were the first to get the black consoles. I presume the console on 180P was changed to the second-version ones. Sv. 88 drivers do not update the IDFC now, it is all automatically done. 492U of Sv. 55 too.