Do you think CCL will have enough passenger loads?

iamgoondu SG

Do you think CCL will have enough passenger loads when it start rolling in 2010?

SMRT had predicted a daily passenger load of 50000, is it achievable?

Which CCL stations will see the most traffic?

Which CCL stations will see the least traffic?

Do you think CCL will have more passenger loads than NEL???

carbikebus SG

Honestly,if CCL does not have enough passengers,they will cut off or amended some bus svs same as NEL.Too many rails stn in s'pore i have to say,make me sick Mad This is just my opinions only,no offences intended.

Gong Xi Fa Cai to all,Enjoy your holidays!

off_service SG

This is very true. Hope that CCL meets the targets set by SMRT and minimal bus services will be affected in the exercises.

medicheng SG

if i am given a chance, I will take bus instead of mrt… like the NEL bo pian. most buses passes by hougang are gone. even go to boon lay also need to take train. haiz.

wuming78 SG

i am concerned. they have once again projected numbers like 500 000. there is a sense of deja vu - look at NEL.

CCL is supposed to divert human traffic away, and create new mkt in some areas. so where there is more there has to be less somewhere else. the overall number of passengers, imo, will not increase substantially (from the new mkts created). hence will the overall system be sustainable? i haf doubts.

i wonder if their projections took into account the traffic diverted away from the other lines. if its diversion from the buses its still ok - they r in competition anyway as diff forms of transport.

wuming78 SG

No talk on NEL deal yet, says SMRT chief
Denying rumours that SBS Transit and SMRT met, Ms Saw says she doesn't even know if NEL is for sale

By Goh Chin Lian

NEARLY three months after the Government said it made sense for transport operator SMRT to take over the loss-making North-East Line (NEL), SMRT says it has yet to meet the line's operator on the matter, even though industry talk is that the two have met.

Yesterday, SMRT chief executive Saw Phaik Hwa denied SMRT had spoken to SBS Transit.

'We have no idea that anyone has talked to anyone in the organisation,' she said.

She then added: 'I heard the ridership has gone up quite a lot recently because of Chinese New Year, so they must be doing better.

'So I'm not sure if it's for sale or not for sale. You should ask the person who's talking to you whether it's for sale first.'

Asked about talk of the meetings and Ms Saw's comments, SBS Transit, NEL's operator, said yesterday: 'It is not our policy to discuss such issues.'

But, it confirmed that the number of trips has increased by 10 to 20 per cent in the first two weeks of this month in the run-up to Chinese New Year, compared to the same period over the previous two months, but declined to reveal absolute figures.

Only about 170,000 trips were made on the NEL each day previously, instead of the 250,000 initially projected. This means the line could chalk up a loss of $20 million to $40 million in its first year of operation.

Ms Saw had said that SBS should 'make me an offer I can't refuse' when Transport Minister Yeo Cheow Tong floated the idea of SMRT taking over the NEL.

This prompted Deputy Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong to remark: 'If I were SBS, I'd ask SMRT to make me an offer I can't refuse either.'

Yesterday, Ms Saw maintained that any deal between SMRT and SBS would have to be 'commercially driven' as 'we have shareholders to answer to', when asked if her company would take over the NEL if it is for sale.

'We're always looking at business deals of any kind,' she hedged.

Asked about her expectations of the Circle Line, which her company will operate, she said that SMRT is 'very bullish' about its prospects. Its calculations match the Land Transport Authority's of 500,000 passengers a day, she added. The Circle Line, which will have interchanges at Bishan, Serangoon and Paya Lebar, is scheduled to open in stages from 2007.

Unlike the NEL, for which ridership predictions were based on expected growth in areas that were still to be developed, the Circle Line will run through mature estates that already have a 'captive audience'.

'We know exactly how many people there are in the areas and how many will take the MRT, so fluctuations won't be far off,' she said, after a ceremony to commend 516 front-line staff for good service.

At the event, SMRT also showcased the new lilac and orchid-pink uniforms that all 5,900 front-line personnel from its train, bus and taxi services will don from Thursday.

off_service SG

Originally posted by wuming78:
Asked about her expectations of the Circle Line, which her company will operate, she said that SMRT is 'very bullish' about its prospects. [b]Its calculations match the Land Transport Authority's of 500,000 passengers a day, she added. The Circle Line, which will have interchanges at Bishan, Serangoon and Paya Lebar, is scheduled to open in stages from 2007.[/b]

I think 500,000 pax, twice the estimations for NEL, is way too much.

SBS9818A SG

It’s a medium rail service so the loads should be satisfactory.

sbs&tibs SG

CCL train has only 3 carriage.

iamgoondu SG

NEL was over designed? or CCL will be sardine packed? Estimation for CCL was so much more than NEL and yet the number of carriages is half of what CCL is having.....

SBS9818A SG

CCL is a medium-rail system. I think NEL trains can do with 4 carriages.

iamgoondu SG

Put 2 long bendy buses to travel side by side to ply on the CCL route now, and you will see if there is a demand for that.

th1988 SG

No NEL is excepted to be the main MRT line as well

PGL: 96,000 units
SKG: 95,000 units
HGN: 68,000 units
SGN: 20,000 units at Ctrl side

Ridership is expceted to grow as SKG and PGL is fast growing, HDB is only gonna built houses there.

As for CCL, it is a medium line due to small development, there are few HDB new towns other than Bishan Very Happy
Most run on pte housing estate and 1 near MCS but on the forest nearer to Cmty Shocked