do u all think tibs bus have longer waiting time thn sbstra

last SG · 2003-12-02T00:03:09+00:00

From what i experienced by going home late at night, especially after 10pm, I've never waited for a SBST service for more than 15 minutes. If it's more than...

alantanchunshyan SG

the frequencies for sembawang bus services seem to have improved as i time it yesterday night from around 10pm-12am.seem punctual at intervals of around 15-17mins.by the way,does sbstransit have bus services with frequencies of 17mins at nightime after 10:30pm?

iamgoondu SG

SBST 200 for sure has frequency longer than 17min at all times.

off_service SG

Headway in someway is similar to frequency. But note:

Shorter headway = higher (or faster) frequency.
Longer headway = lower (or slower) frequency.

The headway of all services depends on the number of buses deployed, weather / traffic conditions and the speed drivers drive the bus.

The headway of 9 to 14 minutes is just a rough estimate. Sometimes we have to give some incentive to the waiting time.

Yusry SG

Going a bit OT here: Very Happy

Frequency in the context of buses could be the following formula: number of departures / time.

So theoretically, frequency should be the inverse of a number: for example 1/9 departures/minutes (d/m) to 1/14 d/m .

The correct term to use for 9 - 14 mins should be period or what some of you term as "headway".

SBS9818A SG

Don't remind me about maths. Mr. Green

iamgoondu SG

So for a bus with headway of 9 to 14 minutes, the bus will leave the interchange at not more than 14 minutes interval?

Strange many times I had seen two SBST 74 travelling along Clementi Road, though BV terminal was pretty near to Clementi Road.

And this afternoon I had waited for a full 35 minutes for TIBS106, and no TIBS106 in sight. I had to take cab in the end.

When first bus was caught in a heavy traffic jam, why the second, third, fourth... buses still left the terminal on scheduled, and caught in the jam as well??? Bus drivers should have the empowerment to pick up from alternative route (to avoid the traffic jam), at least those in the downstream need not have to suffer from the traffic jam too (waiting indefinitely).

That's not the record yet, I had waited for 45 minutes for TIBS 61, and eventually it arrived (at least). And the reason, a traffic accident along Tanglin Halt Road , resulting in massive jam. I may sound stupid to have waited for 45 minutes for a bus, however I would always feel that buses are on the way, thus I continue waiting rather than walk to busstops along HOlland Road or Commonwealth Ave.

Just a question, if a driver knows that there will be a traffic jam ahead of him, will he still drive to it and caught himself into the jam??? Example if there is a fallen tree that blocked Tanglin Halt Road, would a TIBS61 driver still drive into that road?

off_service SG

I'm afraid for this, you have to contact Tibs.

I've waited once for a 167 bus for 1 hour plus at Jln Bt Merah. My dad asked the driver why he is so late. The driver replied, "Jam at Orchard".

service_238 SG

I had this experience in late 2002 when a tour coach bus broke down at the junction of Lorong 7 & Lorong 8 Toa Payoh. Svc 238 turn here towards Braddell Rd. I was in the first bus. As the bus approached behind the coach bus, the driver simply waited and waited. I dont know what's the reason. I felt like going up to the driver to take an alternative route but i didnt.

Soon after, the 2nd and 3rd bus came, queuing up behind the 1st bus. After being struck there for about 12 min, the driver alighted the frustrated and impatient passengers at Blk 17A Bus stop along Lorong 7. After that, the driver U-turn at a carpark entrance up ahead and continue its normal route from there.

Another person told me that one of the buses even cut through the carpark to get to Lorong 8! The carpark entrance was next to Blk 12 and the exit was next to Blk 11A. What an ingenious idea by that driver Smile

Judging from this expereince, it seems like drivers are given strict instructions not to drive anywhere they want, especially if that place is not part of the route. But in situations like this, cant the driver be more flexible?

foxtrot1985 SG

Can I ask if any buses still continued their normal routes on roads affected during the road closure when Bush came to Singapore? That means they just stopped before the blockade and waited for the roads to be re-opened.

oliver_yuen87 SG

Remember the fallen crane that blocked all 4 lanes of BKE going towards city? Svcs 190, 700 and 960 were ammended to ply Bt Timah Rd. Svc 187 was also ammended bcos the traffic build-up also blocked the exit to Bukit Panjang from BKE.

iamgoondu SG

How soon TIBS takes the deccision to amend the route? And what if there is a massive jam rather than road blocked, would TIBS amend the route too? What I meant was that what if the fallen crane block only 2 lanes and cause massive jams? Would TIBS still amend the route?

Just like the massive jam along Orchard Road on Saturday afternoon (20 Dec), the road was not blocked but it just take more than the usual time to clear. Imagine waiting for full 35 minutes and no TIBS 106 arrive!

service_238 SG

For this weekend, the jam at Orchard is caused by last minute Xmas shopping. (Typical of singaporeans)

TIBS should deploy buses to serve from the outskirts of Orchard. For example-
TIB 77 106 from Orchard Blvd or Grange Rd.
TIB 171 700 from Scotts Rd or Bt Timah Rd
TIB 190 from Scotts Rd or Whitley Rd
TIB 167 from Scotts Rd or Newton Rd

I'm pleased at how SBST deploys its buses. They seemed to have more than enough buses to go around.

I've seen:
TIB 190 starting service from Whitley Rd (Raffles Town Club) on a weekday evening before.
SBS 65 from Selegie Rd
SBS 143 from Newton Rd

iamgoondu SG

Originally posted by service_238:
[b]For this weekend, the jam at Orchard is caused by last minute Xmas shopping. (Typical of singaporeans)

TIBS should deploy buses to serve from the outskirts of Orchard. For example-
TIB 77 106 from Orchard Blvd or Grange Rd.
TIB 171 700 from Scotts Rd or Bt Timah Rd
TIB 190 from Scotts Rd or Whitley Rd
TIB 167 from Scotts Rd or Newton Rd

I'm pleased at how SBST deploys its buses. They seemed to have more than enough buses to go around.

Yes, the bus captains should have radioed their bus companies and advise on the traffic conditions. And bus companies should always have backup plan on hand. For instance if there is a massive jam in Orchard Boulevard, TIBS should have deployed buses to start from Napier Road instead for TiBS 106 and TIBS 77.

Instead of spending obscene monies on GPC to locate their buses, the bus companies should have thought on how to keep their buses on schedule. I agree that road conditions are unpredictable, which may cause a bus schedule to go hay wire, but if they have a system which prevent buses to be caught in a jam or having buses to start plying from where the jam end, commuters at downstreams need not have to wondering for long why their buses not arriving.

That's especially important for someone like me, who at Holland Ave, only one bus to Clementi, one bus to Orchard and one bus to Chinatown.

SBS9818A SG

No, from my memory no buses were diverted, they just parked along TPE like fools.

iamgoondu SG

Perhaps PTC should enforce all bus companies to come out with a system to ensure they are able to handle unexpected jams.

Rather than asking bus companies to maintain a 24h bus directory phone service, what's more important would be a system to ensure buses won't be stuck in jams.

SBS9818A SG

Their reply would be "we don't care".

iamgoondu SG

if they vow to be a world class transporter, they should and they must implement such system.

What is more important to commuters? A 24 h phone directory service or a jam proof system?

service_238 SG

Jam proof system. Besides both SBST and TIBS didnt reach the PTC's requirement of a 24-hr phone service. Instead they have 24-hr e-guide. lolz...

Even my beloved Svc 238 has time allowances Razz The drivers have the ability to complete each trip before 28 min.

SBS9818A SG

Yes, they have TOO MUCH time allowance so they go SLOWER, especially on Sv. 93 and Sv. 103

iamgoondu SG

Yes, why insists on SBST and TIBS to implement a 24h guide??? I really didn't see the need of such a service. It only jack up their operating expense.

What if you have been waited for 35 minutes, and they tell you the headway of TIBS106 is 12mins? Would you get more fumes???

THe phone service should be for bus captains to update the road conditions to their bus companies. And bus companies should have someone to take tough decision if they would continue to allow their bus services to be stuck in jams.

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