That negatively funny British Bus

last SG · 2003-06-22T11:12:22+00:00

Yes I do agree the vents have no difference in the heat generated by the engine, it is the amount of stress generated by the governing of the engine. Stupid...

BluBlur SG

TIB1061A does not. TIBS like to vary the gearbox & EDS configuration of the habits a lot.

SBS9818A SG

You can take Sv. 168 to Sunplaza Park or opp Tampines MRT and walk to interchange from there. You'd waste one hour getting from Tampines to Bedok and back again.

tranquilice SG

Mk3 on service 168?

off_service SG

Yes, they get MK 3s as occasional sub buses.

SBS9818A SG

Oh no!! Time to avoid Sv. 168 whenever I see B10M Mk III buses!

SBS9816E SG

NAh Nah Nah! There isn't anything concern with the gearbox towards the emission of heat. Basically, the engine for the Volgren Bendys and the Habits are almost similiar. Also, since the engine produces a lot of torque to power the whole bus, more heat is emitted by the engine.

SBS9816E SG

I somehow have started to dislike Dennis Lance 211. From what I have observed from TIB 1016 G yesterday, I think that the engine compartment is painted in black colour. As a result, more heat is being radiated at the back of the bus, and thus causes the bus to warm up. Also, I feel that the alignment of the air-con outlets of Lance 211 are really bad!!! I need to do some counting b4 adjusting the air-con outlets, cos I afraid that I might adjust the wrong air-con outlet, and the person in front of me might bash me up. Razz Another thinig is Lance 211 does not have the power to blast like a Lance 245. This is because Lance 211 has only the mere 211 bhp, which I think that it couldn't overtake a Lance 245, which has 245 bhp. Even that some drivers find that a Lance 245 is better to be driven, than a Lance 211. One more thing!!! In the day, the air-con could not cool the internal of the bus. I wonder how could a Lance 211 makes passengers feel comfy in the bus.

TIB1186Z SG

I agree. Not only the engine compartment of the LAnce 211 is painted black, almost the entire bottom is black, and the same goes for the Lance 245. In fact, most buses have black engine compartments, so that it is less likely to soot up apparently, and would make the engine more visible due to the contrast.

I think what causes the heat build up is not the colour, it is the vents at the back, got so small and so few rear vents, sure heat up one. Moreover, somebody is out of their minds to mount a rear ad over the vents of a few Lance 245s, dunno what's the freaking logic behind this.

off_service SG

Money purposes I suppose. I believe revenue for advertisements area heaps and heaps of money.

TIB1186Z SG

Yeah wait until one or two Lance 245s start catching fires in the middle of the road and TIBS may then find that the money isn't really worth it, or the increased downtime when the engine overheats and the maintainance cost goes up. But heck, TIBS is selling those Brits already, so I think they are using them as trial purposes, and if there are no fires etc, they may consider installing them on the LAnce 211s. Can't imagine what will happen, it will be like adding fuel to the fire

BluBlur SG

The advertisements would probably first peel off if the bus is overheated.

The possibility of catching fire is less compared to the Scania L113CRL, IMO.

off_service SG

Oh no!! Lance 211 certainly can't take the heat. I hope Tibs will install the Lance 211 engines into the Lance 245s when they are going off.. hehehe Laughing Mr. Green Idea

SBS9818A SG

Yes, the black is to prevent visible soot buildup, also for easier detection of engine parts for maintainance. Do not forget that there is some ventilation area at the offside rear of the bus, so it would not be so badly ventilated. If the O405 can survive on that alone without blowing up like several Mk IVs and Mk IIs, why can't the Lance? It definitely has something to do with the engine.

SBS9818A SG

You must be crazy. There are only what, 20 Lance 211 engines available for 50 Lance 245s! Unless you expect TIBS to uprate the B211 engines! Mr. Green

TIB1186Z SG

Today, I noticed another defect on TIB1014L . The 2 fairings that are above the doors and supposed to cover the IR sensor and the door motors are left flinging to and fro as the bus rocks and rocks and it rotate and rotate like a freaking pendulum…..Anyway the driver is new and inexperienced—-he misjudged the turn and nearly crashed into the rear of TIB1013P, and sent the standing pax experiencing the power of Newton’s 1st Law…...wait till the fairing club someone tall enough then maybe he will bother to screw it back…..Dunno who maintainance so lan, those half turn screw also dun bother to do it properly, but who cares about the LAnce 211, esp TIB1014L? Anyway the AC today at the front is weak but tolerable, not because the AC unit is serviced, but its raining thunderstorms outside.

SBS9818A SG

Wasn't even raining at Bishan, mind you! Oh, the panel covering the door cock mechanism, the door motors, door closing light wiring, etc? That's pretty common, mechanics doing stuff inside and forgetting to close it properly.

TIB1186Z SG

Ever heard of convectional rain? Localise but intense os Whitley sec., and that damn gate keeper close the gate on me in a heavy thunderstorm...have to walk another 15 mins out..

SBS9818A SG

No. I don't do pure Geography. Why, you forgot that fact so fast? Mr. Green

SBS9818A SG

Well, yesterday I got on TIB 1011U from the bus stop after Swiss Cottage Rd at 5pm(peak hour). OK, agreed the engine was hot,

BUT
BUT

The aircon more than made up for the heat from the engine bay, and furthermore, the bus went like a rocket along Lornie Rd, just as I wished as I was trying to catch SBS 3554A from MacRitchie Reservoir(it's the only 2-axle LO with a Cummins LT10 engine instead of a Leyland TL11).

So this proves not ALL Lance 211s are bad. I have had nothing but good experiences on 1007H, 1010Y and 1011U.

off_service SG

Originally posted by SBS9818A:
Well, yesterday I got on TIB 1011U from the bus stop after Swiss Cottage Rd at 5pm(peak hour). OK, agreed the engine was hot,

[b]BUT
BUT

The aircon more than made up for the heat from the engine bay, and furthermore, the bus went like a rocket along Lornie Rd, just as I wished as I was trying to catch SBS 3554A from MacRitchie Reservoir(it's the only 2-axle LO with a Cummins LT10 engine instead of a Leyland TL11).

So this proves not ALL Lance 211s are bad. I have had nothing but good experiences on 1007H, 1010Y and 1011U.[/b]

TIB 1015 J was piping hot... not only hot... and the engine was giving out ALOT of heat.

Perhaps they had did what they promised, going through the whole fleet of Lance 211.

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