NE line

Airbus330Captain SG

After listening to the news or reading articles regarding the opening of NE line , what are your views towards the price and the changes to the 9 services ?

Airbus330Captain SG

Check this out .

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/story/0,4386,187978,00.html?

Airbus330Captain SG

As for me , I dont think i will want to take mrt . The extra costs of taking mrt has definately put me off and I am one of those who prefers taking buses then mrt no matter how long it takes to get from one place to another . If SBS are going to reduce a lot of routes just because of the mrt , I will probably be pissed off and try to find alternate routes to get to my destination unless i am in a hurry .

robokok SG

Any ideas how the 9 routes will be amended?
Apart from svc 21, 72, 22 and 130, what other changes are there?

Regards,
Kok Siong

Airbus330Captain SG

No idea yet , we have to wait for them to announce .

SBS9816E SG

I hope that SBST and PTC would do something sensible with the routes that duplicate the NEL. It would be not feasible if most of the bus routes are amended to serve somewhere else. As you could see, most of the MRT Stations do have some services passing by. This is also to have some bus services to go places that the NEL would never pass by. If SBST and PTC withdraw bus services to Shenton Way, it would not be feasible to do so. This goes to the buses going to Orchard area. These bus services do reach the doorstep of most destinations. Withdrawal of bus services would cause more INCONVENICES than having more CONVENIENCES on taking MRT. Sometimes, you have to walk a few miles to the MRT Station!

In conclusion, NEL is not feasible is some ways. Also, the NEL is also NOT convenience in some ways. I hope that both SBST and PTC would have a better plan towards trransportation along the North East Part of Singapore.

SBS9818A SG

I'd rather take the MRT from Sengkang to HarbourFront than risk butt pain when I take Sv. 80 or Sv. 85. Sv. 80 will remain but may be amended to Bukit Merah Interchange(via Telok Blangah) but Sv. 85 will DEFINITELY be withdrawn.

tranquilice SG

Beside svc 21, 22, 72 & 130, I predicts that the other 5 svc are 24,133, 135 and 2 other unknown svc, but my guess is 25 & 55.

This is my predictions:

svc 21 will via Rangoon Rd, Serangoon Rd, Lavender St, Kallang Rd towards Pasir Ris, skipping Towner Rd, McNair Rd, Boon Keng Rd & Lor 1 Geylang. It will via Kallang Rd, Lavender St, Jln Besar, Kitchener Rd & Serangoon Rd towards St. Michael's.

svc 22 & 24 will turn right into Serangoon Ctrl, Upp Serangoon Rd, then turn right into Upp Paya Lebar Rd towards Paya Lebar.

svc 72 will turn into Hougang Ctrl.

svc 130 will via McNair Rd, Towner Rd, Boon Keng Rd, Upp Boon Keng Rd, Lor 1 Geylang & Kallang Rd towards Shenton Way, skipping Jln Besar & Ophir Rd. It will via Kallang Rd, Lor 1 Geylang, Upp Boon Keng Rd, Boon Keng Rd, Bendemeer Rd, Lavender St towards Ang Mo Kio, skipping Kitchener Rd & Upp Serangoon Rd.

svc 133 & 135 will via Serangoon Ctrl instead of Serangoon Ave 2.

I think that it's a good ideas to divert svc to bring passengers closer to NEL stations, but if the route becomes longer as a result or other passengers suffered inconveniences, then it's better to remain in the current route.

wuming78 SG

my! r u a guru with bus services, or u work at SBS or wat??

tranquilice SG

Originally posted by SBS9818A:
I'd rather take the MRT from Sengkang to HarbourFront than risk butt pain when I take Sv. 80 or Sv. 85. Sv. 80 will remain but may be amended to Bukit Merah Interchange(via Telok Blangah) but Sv. 85 will [b]DEFINITELY be withdrawn.[/b]

In my opinion, svc 80 may be amended to terminate at New Bridge Rd terminal.

Whether svc 85 will be withdrawn or not is the final decision of the PTC. I think that once the NEL opens, svc 85 will be like another svc 2 (svc 2 duplicates route with MRT from City Hall to Tanah Merah). Most probably svc 85 will stay on for at least 6 months after NEL opens if PTC decides to withdrawn it.

tranquilice SG

Nope, I don't work at SBS. This is a forum to talk about buses.

TIB1186Z SG

What do ur' think about services 97 and 111? They follow the line for quite a substantial distance, so perhaps they may be amended or diverted, but this is only my guess.

I don't think 72 will end at Hougang Ctrl itself, its quite convenient to use 72 to Tampines, and who wants to take the NEL to Tampines from Hougang anyway?!

I think that perhaps some express sevices like 511 and 502 might be withdrawn with the intro of the NEL, as both time factor and cost may deter even more people from using them, and 501 is now quite empty already at times, causing SBST to deploy them at a freq of ~40 minutes, which is about 2X that they listed in their route guide in the same time frame.

An interesting thought: do you think that the load factor of 80 and 85 will decline so much after the NEL opens that they start using all single decks, especially service 85.

xin1jun2 SG

i would like to say my predicitons i make in feb 2003...again

here they are again

made a few changes to what i said last time

Intergratio of Svc 16 with svc 85. withdrawn

Service 16 will be extended to WTC. it will follow route till around orchard rd before continue on its way to siglap loop.

Integration of services 97 and 107

Service 107 will be withdrawn. will admended to go onto 107's route from shenton way. 97 will still end at hougang central.

Service 82 and 80

Service 82 is not to be changed. there will be no chnages to svc 80 too.

Extension of service 18 to serangoon. withdrawl of service 81

Service 18 will eb extended to serangoon while service 81 is to be withdrawn.

Service 86 87, 88, 89

All remain the same.

Withdrawl of service 111

[color=blue]admendment of service 103 [integration with service 142/color]
service 103 will end at st michaels instaed. it will be integrated with service 142 to provide links for potong pasir residents.
will be withdrawn. 103 will go : toa payoh - jln kayu via potong pasir

106 and 853 remain.

plus the other changes suggested by tranquilice.

ZYX

MooKu SG

What’s ZYX? I’m seeing this all over the place.

off_service SG

Alias for a forum member.

MooKu SG

Ohh. I thought it stood for something... like how IMHO stands for "In My Honest Opinion"... cos I saw ZYX somewhere else too...

off_service SG

Absolutely right. ZYX stands for a name in short.

tranquilice SG

My guess is that services 97 & 111 will be amended.

No, what I mean is that service 72 will turn into Hougang Central (It will skip a pair of stops along Hougang Ave 4) and then proceed to Tampines or Yio Chu Kang.

I guess that Express 501, 511 & 502 may be withdrawn but not 502. 502 may be integrated with another express service which I think is 518.

Service 80 won't be affected much before the completion of the Circle Line. Service 85, if not withdrawn, is most probably converted to all single deck.

I hope that service 85 will not be withdrawn as it is the only service connecting:

1. Great World City to the NE area.
2. Great World City to HarbourFront.
3. Tiong Bahru to NE area.

The most is that this service be amended in the stretch from Sengkang to Orchard. But from Orchard to HarbourFront, better not amend the route.

tranquilice SG

Do you read the news wrongly? I believe you are saying that service 72 be diverted into Hougang Ctrl while service 22 be diverted into Serangoon Ctrl.

tranquilice SG

ZYX, you mentioned above about extending service 18 to Serangoon. What is the new route like?