the forum is meant for a healthy discussion on christianity.
Rooney and laurence have brought up their viewpoint which are
valid.
Christians should examine alternative viewpoint before
commenting.
Scripture quoting holds no weight. Only logical and rational
argument are of value.
It is improper for pastor to manipulate the church for his own
well- being. that is for sure. the duty of the pastor is to care
for the flock. but they have deviated from their calling and has
fleeced the flock instead of caring for it.
This, the christians, cannot deny. The truth is the truth. CHC
should not have invested in suntec . CHC should have used the money
to help the poor.
This is why laurence and roony are so indignant at the matter.
They have a right to show contempt because the Church has
mismanaged its affairs.
Christians feel that non-christians have no right to judge the
church. but has the church done right? have the pastor done
right? have the church serve its true purpose as a house of prayer
or has it become a clubhouse where the opposite sex flirt with each
other?
Christians, do not be angry with rooney and laurence. Instead of
bashing laurence and rooney, why dun the christians self-reflect on
your own faults and misgivings.Admit your error and fault, repent
and strive to be a better person. When you have achieve in doing
that, laurence and rooney 's contempt will be resolved.
Hi there, there is nothing wrong with presenting an alternative
viewpoint. To be fair, not everyone who has come to EH with an
"alternative viewpoint" has good intentions. Sometimes it's not
even about their viewpoint but all about the conflict in itself. We
also have a few Christians (or that's what claim to be so we take
at face value), who are more into the conflict as well.
It is sad, whether you are a Christian or not that you make
posts and replies in good faith but the other party is only seeking
to cause trouble and incite conflict.
This sub-forum has long ceased being a place of genuine
discussion and sharing of views. To blame any one group would be
wrong. Some people even knowingly add to it to make it worse.
There have been those of us who have admitted like you said that
mistakes have been made by those who call themselves Christians and
we even agree if wrong-doing has been done. We have also conceded
since they have done wrong, and such people should be told and
dealt with accordingly.
However, such comments are often largely ignored, and this is
not true of all non-Christians, but only certain anti-Christians,
they insist on focusing on negative stereotypes even when presented
with clear examples of those who don't conform or practice the
negative stereotypes. Which brings in the irony of being accused of
not listening to alternative views.
For example, there have been Christians who have said they don't
agree with how CHC gets money and how they use it, not just now but
even in the past years ago. But this is ignored and sometimes
blatantly even.
Once again, I stress again I agree with you that we should
listen to alternative views. But not everyone with an "alternative
view" is the same. At the same time, Christians at large should
learn how to respond and handle these different types of people
with "alternative view". I also believe your advice about listening
to alternative views that any person can heed, not just one
specific group of people.
