No one knows the whole Truth

last SG · 2010-02-13T20:00:07+00:00

Indonesia is a corrupted country, period.Yes. corruption is like a disease and culture in Indonesia. difficult to rid of corruption even by the President. th...

idwar SG

JESUS SAID-

¹² “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.

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Jesus wanted to tell his disciples more of the Truth.....but He could not, because they could not bear to know the Truth...

So pastors better tell their flock : "I dont know the whole Truth...because Jesus did not want to tell us yet.... we shall wait for the whole Truth to be made known one day.... "

So let us not argue on matters of religion...because no one knows the whole Truth .....

Fairyfairy86 SG

JESUS SAID-

¹² “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.

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Jesus wanted to tell his disciples more of the Truth.....but He could not, because they could not bear to know the Truth...

So pastors better tell their flock : "I dont know the whole Truth...because Jesus did not want to tell us yet.... we shall wait for the whole Truth to be made known one day.... "

So let us not argue on matters of religion...because no one knows the whole Truth .....

sure ? jesus said that ? is it in the bible ? how come no christians mention it ?

Yourtrustedresource SG

TS TS TS !! =D, y people always like to quote only 1 verse.. Dun Twarp the message leis.. LOL LOL LOL..

John 16 : 13

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.

What Jesus say is that, to his disciples, he, cannot tell them what will be in the future, for his death will come.. IF HE TELL THEM, think, if will his disciples stop Judas? The answer is Yes.. And as for why do he want to die. is becoz he want to save us all.. n redeem us from our sin, for the law was given.. and allow those who believe in him, recieve the promises he has already promised..

To TS: do not make such a senseless topic w/o getting ur facts right.. Thank you.. =D

idwar SG

You get your facts right.

I quote from the Bible. You added your own words, trying to "explain' what you thought Jesus was trying to say.

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¹²Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known

googoomuck SG

JESUS SAID-

¹² “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.

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Jesus wanted to tell his disciples more of the Truth.....but He could not, because they could not bear to know the Truth...

So pastors better tell their flock : "I dont know the whole Truth...because Jesus did not want to tell us yet.... we shall wait for the whole Truth to be made known one day.... "

So let us not argue on matters of religion...because no one knows the whole Truth .....

That is correct. You don't know the truth, let's not argue on matters of religion.

breytonhartge SG

TS you take verses out of context...

idwar SG

You say I quote out of context....you dare speak as if you are right and I am wrong... even God says humans perceive things differently from how HE perceives :

⁸ "For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,"
declares the LORD.

⁹ "As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

breytonhartge SG

how then do you account for Yeshua's narration of John 16:13? all of us here know that we all don't know the whole truth, but the time for restoration is at hand and we are being restored to the truth.

don1266 SG

¹⁶ All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, ¹⁷ that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16-17) [emphasis mine]

Miracles&Prophecies SG

You get your facts right.

I quote from the Bible. You added your own words, trying to "explain' what you thought Jesus was trying to say.

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Nobody claims that he or she understands all the mysteries of God

If there's such person I ask for references otherwise you're basing your argument on a hollow ground.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

You see how many times did Abraham had an experience with God? A mere few times And what about his wife Sarah? hardly! She hardly knew God except what she had been told by Abraham. So did Jacob, Joseph etc. The person who probably had the most experience with God was probably the ancient prophets notably Moses.

That's the whole reason why faith still matters even when the personal knowledge of God is there.

What is not revealed to A was revealed to B so that the bible records the all knowledge about God that's able to be recorded withstanding time the purpose of which so that another person may learn from another person experience with God. Hopefully so that he may experience God himself however little and as a testimony to glorify God. That's the purpose of the bible to bear testament of God's work just like saying "Look people God divided the red sea for the ancient people of Israel!" or "Look people God shifted back the shadows from the sun as a sign of his agreement as requested"

As romanista2001 SG

isn't the King James version compiled and edited by Francis Bacon aka William Shakespeare.................all for political reasons

wouldn't be surprised if he was the actual author of Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings.................

Miracles&Prophecies SG

But you don't resent harry potter or Lord of the rings and you must seek the answer to that WHY?

The same reason why some people who don't resent the bible must resent harry potter or Lord of the rings.

Thy must all ask WHY?!

idwar SG

The only preacher who admitted in the pulpuit that he does not understand how God works was John Wimber of the Vineyard movement. He was honest in his admission.

Which pastor do you know has ever admitted his lack of understanding?

breytonhartge SG

The only preacher who admitted in the pulpuit that he does not understand how God works was John Wimber of the Vineyard movement. He was honest in his admission.

Which pastor do you know has ever admitted his lack of understanding?

many.

As romanista2001 SG

what i meant is that the religion is a complete fabrication..................the Roman emperor created the religion for political reasons............

there are over 30 ancient messiahs/saviours all before Jesus's time and they all share the same............

late december birth................virgin birth...............held as messiahs/saviours...............betrayed and killed.............resurrection.................

there was one well-known British Christian historian who admitted that most of the teachings/stories in the bible are very close to those of earlier messiahs/saviours..................some even word for word.............

Miracles&Prophecies SG

The Roman empire persecuted the religion which they viewed as a cult originating from Judea. Again an inaccurate twisting of history which in other words a lie.

And no it's not a fabrication a knowledge which I hold that God is real. The question is not whether God whom I believe in and not whether Christ is real but whether salvation will be mine or ours

I challenge you to name those 30 saviors so that I could look on them on the internet

Miracles&Prophecies SG

The only preacher who admitted in the pulpuit that he does not understand how God works was John Wimber of the Vineyard movement. He was honest in his admission.

Which pastor do you know has ever admitted his lack of understanding?

Interesting you did not answer me so which preacher admits that he understands all the mysteries of God?

You try to go around my question by saying that only John Wimber admits that he doesn't know how God works but that's not the answer to my question my question is which preacher claim to know all the mysteries of God?

You go to a service this Sunday a pastor or a priest then ask him whether he knows all the mysteries of God or know how God works exactly in every way.

If you find one which tells you that he does. Send me his email I've got a lot to ask.

laurence82 SG

i could name you some institution which could save u, like Institute for Mental Health for one

laurence82 SG

so no preacher/pastor understand the mysteries of god? no wonder for their loony illogical ranting