Christians need not be stupid

last SG · 2009-12-20T16:24:19+00:00

Then rewind and delete the part and leave it as reading one book. What is so confusing.U want people believe, pray for them. Show good example and leave...

likeyou SG

Seem like certain pple has been brainwashed until they cannot think for themselves. I am not refering to any forumers here.

AndrewPKYap SG

Point 1) Well, it is up to individual to think what he meant. To most people, he is referring to microorganisms. What other living things are in there besides that?

Point 2) If he referred to demons and gods, he would have spelt out clearly because he spelt out clearly demons and gods in all the scriptures.

Up to the individual? Crap!!! Next you will tell me you need faith "to think what he meant".

If he can spell out clearly "because he spelt out clearly demons and gods" why can't he spell out clearly if he meant other humans and in which galaxy?

You are just delusional if you believe your guesses what Buddha meant (they are just guesses). BTW Buddha is trying to teach people not to be delusional. You have a delusion when you believe "guesses" as truth. In order that you do not have delusions in your head, what you believe must come with proofs and evidences.

Funny isn't it; people calling themselves Buddhist being delusional about Buddhist scriptures?

AndrewPKYap SG

Seem like certain pple has been brainwashed until they cannot think for themselves. I am not refering to any forumers here.

Either that or they are too lazy or stupid to think for themselves.

Dawnfirstlight SG

Up to the individual? Crap!!! Next you will tell me you need faith "to think what he meant".

If he can spell out clearly "because he spelt out clearly demons and gods" why can't he spell out clearly if he meant other humans and in which galaxy?

Funny isn't it; people calling themselves Buddhist being delusional about Buddhist scriptures?

So, can you tell me what other living things are in there if he was not referring to microorganism ? Please enlighten me? He had already mentioned other intelligent beings. Do you expect him to say Aliens ? I wonder there were such words called Aliens and microorganism 2500 years ago. If he mentioned Aliens and microorganisms 2500 years ago, today we may use different words for Aliens and microorganism, so you will say he was not referring to the same thing. Well, this is a free world, you have every right to disagree. I rest my case here.

Dawnfirstlight SG

Up to the individual? Crap!!! Next you will tell me you need faith "to think what he meant".

If he can spell out clearly "because he spelt out clearly demons and gods" why can't he spell out clearly if he meant other humans and in which galaxy?

Funny isn't it; people calling themselves Buddhist being delusional about Buddhist scriptures?

Just one example of what was used in the scriptures.

Earth was not called earth 2500 years ago but 娑婆世界. But every buddhists know that he was referring to earth. There are many others.

HeartHunter SG

I feel sad when people keep quoting supernatural stuffu to mean empirical matter, despite myself often use "GOD THROWING APPLE DOWN ON NEWTON'S HEAD" as a thinking statement for the confused students.

People need to stop relying on single teachers, we need to strive to be capable persons, searching for individual values in different teachings be it christianity, buddhism or even science. By taking analogical information 'wholesale' you risk taking irrelevant values that may not help you in this day and age.

I have met faithful people religious people who knows that not of what they learn are true, especially when they understand that such teachings (i.e. Bible) are written by a group of real people, and they know there may be different interpretations of each.

It is just perpectivism, my principle is that everything (anything I've understood) is valid, until proven wrong. Iterative cycles of mental evaluation of reality also help me to define what is (my) reality, what is literature, and what is fiction.

PEOPLE, PLEASE WAKE UP. Do your own research into your own religion and stop relying on what religion tells you. If you want to look capable to your peers, you must UNDERSTAND what god tries to teach you, not merely DESCRIBING what you have been innoculated.

AndrewPKYap SG

You are guessing again. Delusions. Show me some proof, some evidence. Stop coming to me with your guesses. Stop asking me to come up with proofs to defend you. You make the claims, you come up with the evidence. This is exactly the same as christians asking people to prove that god does not exist.

Guesses are natural but for you to believe your guesses you have become delusional.

AndrewPKYap SG

Just one example of what was used in the scriptures.

Earth was not called earth 2500 years ago but 娑婆世界. But every buddhists know that he was referring to earth. There are many others.

This is what people call, a non-sequitur. Just because "娑婆世界" means earth then, it proves your other assumptions? What kind of stupid logic is that?

You have to prove your claims. You cannot tell me something else (a non-sequitur) and then expect people to accept your delusions as truth. You want people to accept what you say is true, give us your proofs and evidences.

Give up your delusions and liberate your mind.

AndrewPKYap SG

You are so pitiful. You seem to be a Buddhist but you fail to learn the key component of Buddhist teaching which is to see through the delusions and illusions of this world.

Not only are you not liberated, you actually have delusions about Buddhist scriptures!!!

HeartHunter SG

-goes for laugh, your comment is evident.

And I'm not a buddhist. Please do not pity me.

AndrewPKYap SG

-goes for laugh, your comment is evident.

And I'm not a buddhist. Please do not pity me.

hahaha so sorry I thought that post was from "Dawnfirstlight" continuing his rubbish. My bad, I should have carefully read what you wrote in that post... hahaha

AndrewPKYap SG

I don't agree with this: "my principle is that everything (anything I've understood) is valid, until proven wrong."

Your principle might be that, but mine is "anything I know and have understood is epistemically wrong and invalid" but for practical purposes, I hold on to them and uses them.

I am therefore, always seeking proof and evidence (and expect valid proofs and evidence from others) to justify my positions (and for them to justify their positions).

BadzMaro SG

well its not surprising to tar all with the same brush, just look at the way you reply to him. I rest my case. besides, the concept of the divine is already a flawed concept, full of inconsistencies and paradoxes if you bother to read the comments posted earlier in this very thread.

The way i reply is consistent with any reply to those that doesnt think deep enough but only touches on the mere surfaces of the issue. They way he sumarises everything as a whole. And educated learned person will know u dont put all the eggs in the same basket. Unless you are one of those too.

The concept of divinity is flawed because you are using something u think u know to explain something u dont know. Even if it is flawed , the proven is not fully proven. Even it, has inconsistencies and paradoxes. So what are you on about ? We not even stopped at our discovery. The whole idea of science, is to find explainations. And the explainations we recieve just begs MORE questions. Dont u see that it will all come back to the same question.. How Did It Happen?

U may not believe,because u chose never to beieve, even with the gift to decide for yourself, you let others decide for u, but at least, even with my faith, i still keep an open mind.

AndrewPKYap SG

U may not believe,because u chose never to beieve, even with the gift to decide for yourself, you let others decide for u, but at least, even with my faith, i still keep an open mind.

You said:

"The whole idea of science, is to find explainations. And the explainations we recieve just begs MORE questions. Dont u see that it will all come back to the same question.. How Did It Happen?"

...and so you think it wise to just ignore the evidence and "have faith". You don't see how delusional that is, to believe in things unproven?

That part of your post: "How Did It Happen?"

Maybe you missed this at the posts on top of this page:

3)The cutting edge theoretical physics now considers, with mathematical proofs, calculations and observations that the total amount of energy (the sum of the positive energy and the negative energy) in the universe is zero. That is to say, energy appears from nothingness.

Since energy and therefore mass can appear from nothing, it is possible that this universe is not the only one. The conditions of this universe, however supports life as we know it, on earth.

Cutting edge theoretical physics show that there is no need for Gods, Buddhas or the super-natural forces to explain the existence of the universe.

I must add of course that the cutting edge theoretical physics I mentioned is not yet conclusive and universally accepted. It is so new.

googoomuck SG

Why chirs pple love knocking on pple's door and try to preach the pple? Why?

Plain stupid and a nuisance.

When an equally irritating sales person does that door to door or stops a people at an mrt station, you have no problem with that?

Don't you know how to avoid the irritating sales person or the preacher? Who's stupid?

laurence82 SG

When an equally irritating sales person does that door to door or stops a people at an mrt station, you have no problem with that?

Don't you know how to avoid the irritating sales person or the preacher? Who's stupid?

Puting words into people mouth ah, troll? He never said he got problem with those, but i guess sales people are less annoying than preachers anyway

Why cant preachers do a good deed and avoid us? U stupid or wad?

googoomuck SG

You hit it right on the nail. Do people need faith to believe in gravity? You can prove gravity for yourself. Those that do not believe in gravity should just go up ten floors and jump down. They do that, they don't need any proof anymore.

You only need faith in things that are unbelievable and does not come with proofs and evidences. Only stupid people will willingly buy the rubbish. They make ridiculous claims and do not to show proof and evidence and instead put the blame on others for not having faith. Unbelievable how stupid people can be to fall for this kind of tricks.

Gravity is a discovery. It's not about faith. It is a law of physics but why does gravity behave like this?

If science can lead physicists to abandon atheism, do you think that they are stupid too?

googoomuck SG

Puting words into people mouth ah, troll? He never said he got problem with those, but i guess sales people are less annoying than preachers anyway

Why cant preachers do a good deed and avoid us? U stupid or wad?

Hey, I was looking for you. I thought you are missing. So there you are. Did you bounce your forehead off prayer mats during my absence?

laurence82 SG

Hey, I was looking for you. I thought you are missing. So there you are. Did you bounce your forehead off prayer mats during my absence?

Have you been knocking yourself with your book of falsehoods while reading up on Sodom? You sound groggy

googoomuck SG

Have you been knocking yourself with your book of falsehoods while reading up on Sodom? You sound groggy

I bought you a new baseball bat while I nurse my injured arm? Didn't you get my message?

Did you bounce your head off the prayer mat while I'm gone?

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