Christanity is about self deception

last SG · 2009-08-07T18:43:10+00:00

You guys are lost I state the truth.

+Sikoyo+ SG

how hard is the question, tell me which feast of Yahweh you want to discuss first... by your answer you clearly show me that you do not even know what the feasts of Yahweh are.

no way I will ever precieve the church's jesus as Yeshua. They are different people altogether.

anyone who read the bible will know the feasts of Yahweh but i asked u which feasts are u talking about in the 1st place...passover? unleavened bread? weeks? tabernacles? pentecost? trumpets? and my earlier question was how do u keep them as of today?

supposingly...and if...and i said if, if u are wrong and on judgement day u found out the two are the same God, aren't u gonna be condemn to hell for blasphemy? even if u had kept the feasts.

breytonhartge SG

supposingly...and if...and i said if, if u are wrong and on judgement day u found out the two are the same God, aren't u gonna be condemn to hell for blasphemy? even if u had kept the feasts.

deleted.. i leave you to your own devices.

domonkassyu SG

supposingly...and if...and i said if, if u are wrong and on judgement day u found out the two are the same God, aren't u gonna be condemn to hell for blasphemy? even if u had kept the feasts.

actually no..cuz IF..at the end of days..a trinitarian god is the true God..based on the bible that he is love..he will forgive all those who showed faith but was misled to believe in God not being a mystical trinitarian god so long as they with the new knowledge choose to serve him as the trinitarian deity.. ^^

+Sikoyo+ SG

deleted.. i leave you to your own devices.

well u still refuse to answer me :) so i take it as u celebrate the passover every year by slaughtering a male 1 year old sheep or goat(and how do u know its 1 years of age unless u raised it all by urself), apply some of its blood outside ur doorpost & eat the meat roasted over fire wif unleavened bread hastily.

Understood & case closed.

+Sikoyo+ SG

bro dats wat i believed too but i jus wan brey to answer me ernestly becos he claimed to kept all the feasts & commandments of God without fail.

isn't dat equal to ---> sinless? impossible for a mortal.

domonkassyu SG

bro dats wat i believed too but i jus wan brey to answer me ernestly becos he claimed to kept all the feasts & commandments of God without fail.

isn't dat equal to ---> sinless? impossible for a mortal.

well..the original plan of the mosiac laws..was to keep a covenant..and if..if...anyone can keep all the laws..by right..prehuman jesus need not come liao..cuz that person would have perfected himself...but..becuz humans are born with inherited sin..so jus too bad lor..no matter wat oso need a champion for us..so jesus have to come on a multi tasked mission..

noahnoah SG

When i was in my dream...

I heard a far away voice~~

that voice seems like from Mr S.A Tan de

Jesus had left this bloody world full of Sin..

True a not ar?

+Sikoyo+ SG

Agreed. so brey should not hav claimed he kept everything in the bible :) then wats the point of his messiah to come to earth.

breytonhartge SG

Agreed. so brey should not hav claimed he kept everything in the bible :) then wats the point of his messiah to come to earth.

hence your misunderstanding.. .I did not say the you keep the commandments for salvation, I said you have to keep the commandments because of salvation. These are two very distinct and separate ideas. Unfortunately, the church always gets this mixed up when one starts to mention Torah. Torah does not earn me righteousness, grace through Yeshua does.

I said that because you are saved you are now under His rules and His ways so therefore the commandments have to be kept as you are His child, they are our very basic foundation for living life according to what pleases Him. He has already told you what pleases Him yet man chooses to follow vain tradition, the Jews who do not know Maschiach do things more right than the church would ever do. At least they follow His ways.

The point of Maschiach coming the first time was so that we would have grace and the opportunity to repent and Teshuva back to Yahweh. The message of the church has always been wrong. They made it about jc, but the message of Yeshua has always been turn back to the Father. This message is central to all the works in the bible... G_d calling us to turn back to Him.

+Sikoyo+ SG

deleted as it's unappreciated :)

+Sikoyo+ SG

many hav great knowledge but how many know humility?

im proven wrong again despite having hopes :)

domonkassyu SG

When i was in my dream...

I heard a far away voice~~

that voice seems like from Mr S.A Tan de

Jesus had left this bloody world full of Sin..

True a not ar?

u hear satan before ar??haha..when Jesus left this world..people are still sinful..people he res..still died..people who are born til today still aint perfect and sinful..so i guess its true..

BUT....Jesus also left a gift..a gift of redemption(not the song by gackt)..those who will die in the name of Jesus will live...but many who choose to die in Jesus name will be rejected by Jesus and God..for they do not know those people...

sin will never be eradicated so soon..but when its over..people will never be sad ever..

domonkassyu SG

Agreed. so brey should not hav claimed he kept everything in the bible :) then wats the point of his messiah to come to earth.

i guess he tried his best to at least kept all major de..sabbath..passover..etc..but i think the mosiac law got 100-200 laws bah..and some are very difficult for certain group to keep..

domonkassyu SG

many hav great knowledge but how many know humility?

im proven wrong again despite having hopes :)

with great power comes great responsibility..words from my wise uncle ben =p

+Sikoyo+ SG

with great power comes great responsibility..words from my wise uncle ben =p

change from CV to spiderman ah...lol.

domonkassyu SG

change from CV to spiderman ah...lol.

no lah..prefer venom

Joshen zx SG

To be accurate, the mosaic laws have a total of 613 laws... break any one = break all..

Its not difficult.. its impossible and only Jesus can do it... That was what made Him worthy to be a sacrifice for us..

domonkassyu SG

To be accurate, the mosaic laws have a total of 613 laws... break any one = break all..

Its not difficult.. its impossible and only Jesus can do it... That was what made Him worthy to be a sacrifice for us..

quite true...as with other angels too..cuz they too are without sin..

breytonhartge SG

To be accurate, the mosaic laws have a total of 613 laws... break any one = break all..

Its not difficult.. its impossible and only Jesus can do it... That was what made Him worthy to be a sacrifice for us..

why is it that when ever one talks about Torah/Commandments/Law the first thing christians assume is that we cannot keep it? or we don't have to keep it? why also do christians always make that distinction that salvation and Torah are mutually exclusive?

Yet Yeshua did say follow Yahweh's commandments. His sacrifice for us is not so that we don't have to keep Torah, His sacrifice for us is so that we have the grace to repent and turn back to Yahweh and walk in Torah.

Joshen zx SG

His sacrifice for us is so that we have the grace to repent and turn back to Yahweh and walk in Torah.

Yes, that is right. What i mean is because Jesus has already purchased for us freedom and there is therefore now NO condemnation, a christian can walk boldly in God's prescence and continue in Gods ways. However, should he fail, he should not condemn himself for failing, but pick himself up,look to Jesus, and continue walking...

There is no longer a spirit of fear, but a spirit of love and confidence that we are empowered to live Godly lives ... Grace is not an excuse to carry on sinning. It is a providence for the sinner to come back and continue his walk..

Please understand that we are not anti-nomian.. haha.. We are definitely for righteous living, just against the fact that some preachers (no names here) often blast the congregation for failing, when it should be reminding them how much they are loved and need not fear ..

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