The Origination of Religion, how it came about?

marcteng SG

Lucifer is an angel in heaven in the beginning rite?

what makes him turn to the dark side and became satan?

thats the cruz of the matter, cos christians believe all the evil were created by satan? that means no evil exists before the betrayal, then how come Lucifer can become evil when there are no evil that existed, thats highly illogic.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

Lucifer is an angel in heaven in the beginning rite?

what makes him turn to the dark side and became satan?

Actually it is highly logical but it's just that you fail to see it. And I'm a Christian and I don't believe man can make excuses of their evil ways and deeds and blame it on satan. The fact that man can be damned to hell is a proof that man is responsible for his own doing.

marcteng SG

then where is the evil before lucifer, since he still has not betrayed god.

as usual lar, all the christians explanations I know . I have heard aplenty no worries, not unexpected though

Miracles&Prophecies SG

Why not? Where the heaven or hell is God?

I just would like to point out that though God reigns from heaven He is everywhere. God is in my heart as He is in yours and everyone's else. God is in everything, in the drawer, in the lunchbox, in the church hall, in the prison cell and torture chamber, in raging seas, in quiet lakes, in the deepest valley, in the highest mountain, in the darkest forest, in the hottest desert, in the air, in every plane in every heart, in every emotion, in every desire, in every thought, in every dream, in every prayer, in every fantasy, in every lie, in every word, in each dead, in every place, in every plane, in everything living seen and unseen, in every time, in the past, in the present, in the future, in before time and in after the end of time.

God knows each of us MORE than we know ourselves

marcteng SG

god exists on its own? is there a world before god? who created god before god exists?

Miracles&Prophecies SG

god exists on its own? is there a world before god? who created god before god exists?

God is not created. God is the creator of all things. He existed before the beginning of time and knew the very end even before time began. He knows you and me and everyone else before we are even born. He knows each of us MORE than we know ourselves. He knows EVERY detail of our life even ones that we have forgotten.

marcteng SG

I know u were going to say this

anyway pointless debating over this. I know where you stand and you know where I stand, period.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

I know u were going to say this

anyway pointless debating over this. I know where you stand and you know where I stand, period.

Yes I knew you knew. You just don't have personal experience with God that's all. So what I write makes no sense to you.

Herzog_Zwei SG

Is God in hell? As per the Dead Sea scrolls, God is also in hell.

Herzog_Zwei SG

Yes I knew you knew. You just don't have personal experience with God that's all. So what I write makes no sense to you.

Wrong, God has no personal experience with human beings.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

Wrong, God has no personal experience with human beings.

Wrong some people has personal experience with God. WRONG, Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Joseph, etc to modern times people like sister Gulshan Esther, Brother Yun from China.

I too have had some personal experience with God.

Every Christians should have personal experience with God because Christianity is not about religion but it is a relationship with God.

Herzog_Zwei SG

But then the majority of the world people cannot have a relationship with God because they are sane.

S.gal83 SG

Primitive ancient people that time were living in caves, hills and mountains, they do not know that natural phenomena like lighting, thunders, earthquakes, floods etc are not acts of god. their lifestyles were hunting, eating, protecting their tribes and procreation. so they begun to think that there must be a god, if not who are creating all these natural diasters. so they begun praying to Sun, Moon, rivers, sky because to seek their protection and create less disasters. they thought that by praying and worshipping, the Sun/moon god will be appeased and will bless their tribe. as people evolved and the worshipping progressed, some even took it to sacrifising animals and later humans to appease the god. Here the concept of god was based on fear, as they are unable to understand these are not acts of god, but natural phenomenon.

Not really. Religion does not always comes through ignorance.

S.gal83 SG

Not all people who has a personal experience with God will choose to believe in God. Some people (namely me) may have receive dreams, visions, and even prayer answers from God and still choose finally to disbelieve in God in the end.

For me, I think God exists. I just don't worship him. That is due to my belief in him as a powerful but evil god. I think he distorts the bible by telling the story of the bible only from his perspective.

S.gal83 SG

Anyway, this topic is about religion, not about personal experience with god.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

Anyway, this topic is about religion, not about personal experience with god.

Religion is all about a personal relationship with God. No wonder you stopped believing. You never experience God

Miracles&Prophecies SG

Of course but you can't deny what has been given to you. That's the only difference while most people still struggle with their faith or from time to time doubt God, few others who have personal experience with God already pass that struggle of whether God exists and alive and working though they do not know everything about God but they know and witness the fulfillment of the words that is God's promises in their life.

Evil god? You don't know God then.

Distorts the bible? The bible is written by men of faith not God

Midlusionz SG

Religion is all about a personal relationship with God. No wonder you stopped believing. You never experience God

With due respect, everytime i read your replies i feel like laughing cos its like u are more of obsess rather than a faithful believer.

marcteng SG

With due respect, everytime i read your replies i feel like laughing cos its like u are more of obsess rather than a faithful believer.

their religion is like that lar. you want to join and believe his religion ma?

why dun u ask him, do u go to hell after you die?

Midlusionz SG

their religion is like that lar. you want to join and believe his religion ma?

why dun u ask him, do u go to hell after you die?

I am comfortable with my own religion, thank u.

Seriously, i dun really care if i go to hell or heaven. In the end i am still label as dead.

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