i said that salvation in hope is not certain if you factor in
good works because if such good works is not quantifiable then how
much good works is good works....
i believe that my salvation is complete in because of the works
of Christ on the cross.
So how much good works does one need to do to guarantee
salvation?
If I did one good deed yesterday and didn't do one today and
died, how?
If I didn't do good work this entire month.... but did heaps
prior to that, do I go to heaven if I die now... just yes or
no....
If I didn't do good works my whole life, but helped an old lady
across the road, and I got hit by a car, do i go to heaven... just
yes or no....
Seriously, if you are trying to find answers.... sgforums is NOT
the place....
Actually, you did not say "salvation in hope is not certain if
you factor in good works" but it's ok.
And salvation in hope is certain because Paul has explained in
clear terms unless of course if you disagree with Paul. It is a
process that starts from profession of faith until we face our
Lord.
Salvation is possible by Christ dying on the Cross and is
available to all human race for free. But to attain it, there are
conditions and that does not changed the fact that salvation is
still free. For us is by faith and works (that will prove our
faith) and for you faith alone.
By the way, it is not works alone that saves and we are not
working to be saved.
I don't know why you go back to quantify and measure of good
works (again) which we have already explained many times.....that
it is good works from the heart that counts.
It is about a Christian life that we live that will proved that
we are truely converted and our deeds proved our faith.
Same question again, how do you measure and quantify faith?
Cannot ?
Perhaps, we can by the works we produced that comes from our
heart. It is not about hair splitting moments if it becomes part of
our life. To make it simple, every good work is done because we
love Christ from our heart. Do we need to count how many times we
love Christ?
And everytime we decline to show love and charity is to deny
Christ because we choose not to love Christ......
The question you never answer was : If one deny Christ, can one
claimed to have faith in Christ?
And the question I am seeking answer to is how can faith
(without fruits yet) saves when it is agreed by all (I hope) that
it is true faith in Christ (that has works to proved) that
saves?
Or is that what you mean by problem in comprehension and wrap
interpretations? If so, then of course this forum is not the place
to seek answer but is that your personal opinion ??
