http://www.carm.org/questions/faithorworks.htm
http://www.carm.org/questions/lose_salvation.htm
just woke up, too groggy to have a healthy discussion
I read through already....which is basically what we have been
talking about. What is faith to you? Why would works be in your
salvation theory (wherever you place them)?
I am not picking but it does seems to be there is a logic
failure (if I may use your words) since we are saved only by true
faith in Christ (which is proved by our works). Yet, we are
considered saved when profess our faith (which is not considered
true faith to Christ yet)? The 2 links did not answer the questions
I asked.
Also, the link seems to address between are we saved
by faith or
works?
But the real contention here is that we all agree that we are
saved by faith but what kind of faith? Faith with no works needed
or faith with works (that will proved that the faith is real/true
in Christ)? It was not about saving by works alone....
On loosing salvation, Paul said that we are saved in hope and at
the end, have we ran the race of our life? To says some are not
saved in the first place, how would they know? If they have not
"believed" in the first place, why do they start calling Jesus
Lord...Lord...?
In the end, can one loose one's salvation? It seems
unconclusive.....as the writer seems to say so and commented based
on his own opinions.....and we are not suppose to follow 1 man's
opinion?