How is a life of a priest

last SG · 2008-11-13T07:44:26+00:00

That's a cheap shot....cheap and effective =)

grandmaster89 SG

I see. Thanks for enlightening me.

However, i don't get it why they are given such lastest model of gadgets? While, if it is for work, i think that some average laptops and handphones should be suffice. The money saved could be used to help others in need.

Just for you ease, the models im talking about is phones like w960i, n95 and some other smartphones.

Your reasoning do have merits but is there any evidence of the CC stinging on the poor in Singapore?

Don't forget Vatican also very rich :)

crimsontactics SG

Your reasoning do have merits but is there any evidence of the CC stinging on the poor in Singapore?

Don't forget Vatican also very rich :)

Yeah. You're right about that part.

Though Vatican is rich, their finance management is really doubtful, not transparent, so its hard to say if the money is put to good use.

grandmaster89 SG

Yeah. You're right about that part.

Though Vatican is rich, their finance management is really doubtful, not transparent, so its hard to say if the money is put to good use.

Well its up to them. Remember the Vatican is a soveriegn country so I don't think it can just reveal all its financial data. Even up till today Singapore has yet to fully account all his reserves.

Most of its money comes from its investments, art, treasures/money from the now defunct Papal States and of course real estate.

Smarty Boy SG

No offense though, but i doubt that they can resist picking on the donations.

I think you have some mis-understanding....Priests are not given any gadgets by the Church and certainly not latest laptops and handphones. Some priest who need a laptop (such as for out of Church events) may be given one but it belongs to the Church and not the priest. Like your rifle in army - it's not yours. Handphones are personal for sure and most Church do not even reimburse the priest for the line.....certainly not the phone.

All priests DO NOT own cars as they belong to the Church and I believe that it cannot be more than 1600cc. But only for parish Churches because priest need to travel to serve the community as mentiuoned.

You do make a very serious allegations when you said "i doubt that they can resist picking on the donations". The donations are not counted by the priests but by a committee of lay people.

If you know any "loop holes" that may allow a priest to dip into donations, perhaps you can raise them so that something can be done or...

If you know of any or suspect that any priest is dipping into donations, you can always make a report to the Archbishop or even the police.

$500 is for real and not face value only.....

Why would someone wants to give up everything (and some priests do give up successful careers) to join a seminary for 7-8 years (when they get even lesser - used to be $50 a month but not sure now) just to get a chance to dip into donations?

Smarty Boy SG

Yeah. You're right about that part.

Though Vatican is rich, their finance management is really doubtful, not transparent, so its hard to say if the money is put to good use.

What are your doubts about the Vatican's finance management?

It will be interesting to know.....and maybe you would also like to know that the Pope is another priest. He owns nothing that belongs to the Vatican and will die poor with nothing to his name. Everything belongs to the Church and his people.

If you have interest to find out what the Catholic community is doing, visit Caritas.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

Besides, i don't think what you, if you will to be so kind as not to be offended, have done in your life which give you the rights to judge others.

Wrong I have the right to judge others.

Not because so much of what I've done but because what most other people have done but in a way you could say it's because what I've chosen not to do or follow.

I can tell you that I'm chosen and I can prove it to you but I don't think the lecturer could prove that he is doing anyhting better than commited priests. It was an arrogance on his side, a thought that he should have kept for himself.

Beautiful951 SG

Are priests great healers?

skythewood SG

There is a story of a father and his son who took their donkey to the market one day in order to buy food. The father sat on the donkey and the boy walked.

As they traveled, on-lookers said: "What a terrible thing. A big strong man like that riding while the poor boy has to walk."

So the father got off and he let the boy ride. Then people said: "How disrespectful. The father walks while his son rides."

So they both got on the back of the donkey. And then people said: "How cruel. Two people riding on that poor donkeys back."

So they both got off the donkey and walked. People said: "How foolish. Both of them walk while a perfectly healthy donkey has nothing on his back."

In other words, judging others is bad.

Beautiful951 SG

In other words, judging others is bad.

Isn't it listening too seriously to other is not good?

Short Ninja SG

Donkey still Ok but Taxi wa dame desu!

Miracles&Prophecies SG

In other words, judging others is bad.

Not when I'm the judge.

crimsontactics SG

You do make a very serious allegations when you said "i doubt that they can resist picking on the donations". The donations are not counted by the priests but by a committee of lay people.

If you know any "loop holes" that may allow a priest to dip into donations, perhaps you can raise them so that something can be done or...

If you know of any or suspect that any priest is dipping into donations, you can always make a report to the Archbishop or even the police.

$500 is for real and not face value only.....

First off, i would like you to understand that these are my doubts and that i'm not making any allegations regarding the financial management of the Church.

For the rifle part, you do have several good points there. However, you have to take into consideration that it may be misused for personal gains (for example, the recent AWOL soldier with his SAR). If even the army cannot ensure total security over their men and equipment, I think its resonable to doubt the ability of a ( not the ) church to ensure that no money is being used for "other purposes".

A gentle reminder, indiviual contributions maybe insignificant, but if you consider the scale of the church ( like cityharvest or novena ), it is worth quite alot. Just around 1% of the total donation per annum could easily ensure the priest a decade of good life. You may argue that a group of people will monitor every movement of the donations, but if the priest can't be trusted, can they?

skythewood SG

Isn't it listening too seriously to other is not good?

it also means not everyone should judge others, just like the villagers.

Beautiful951 SG

Donkey still Ok but Taxi wa dame desu!

Taxi wa hayai desu

Beautiful951 SG

it also means not everyone should judge others, just like the villagers.

But its still their right to judge as as its the right of the father and son not to listen.

skythewood SG

But its still their right to judge as as its the right of the father and son not to listen.

their judgement is detrimenental and full of half truth, similar to misselling of dbs high 5 bonds. if your judgement is not sound, you will do better by keeping quiet.

crimsontactics SG

Wrong I have the right to judge others.

Not because so much of what I've done but because what most other people have done but in a way you could say it's because what I've chosen not to do or follow.

You don't have to prove to me that you're chosen. I believe you. I also believe that everyone here is chosen to be born a human, and that only a retard would say that a father's care and contribution is indeed, a selfish act.

Cool-gal SG

dear all, our church is continually in need of priest, please help those who are called to come forth and serve the Lord.

thanks.

i'll pray for you..

bus555 SG

Amen :)

Miracles&Prophecies SG

I was saying that he didn't have the merit to utter such opinion in public that might offend other people. By making such a claim that all the priest are doing nothing he was saying that he was doing something! In other words he judged the priests as valueless and useless. and he judged himself to be far useful than priests.

he brought the shame unto himself.

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