Let's testify! What have you lost for Christ & gain w Christ

Miracles&Prophecies SG

So let's testify to glorify God.

What have you lost for Christ's sake and what have you gain with Christ?

We all have to bear our cross. So what sacrifices have you made for following Christ?

And because Christ is a living God what have you gain in place of those that you lost?

noahnoah SG

I have lost a lot of my own time and $$$ contributed

to Church for years

in the end i dun know what i gain also

Creation1656 SG

Originally posted by noahnoah:

I have lost a lot of my own time and $$$ contributed

to Church for years

in the end i dun know what i gain also

This is what happened if u attend church without proper understanding of Torah. If u really understand Torah u may not want to attend church.

4sg SG

I have lost a lot of my own time and $$$ contributed

to Church for years

in the end i dun know what i gain also

A church is like any other organisation with ppl always being ppl, regardless.

U have the good, bad and ugly..........

4sg SG

This is what happened if u attend church without proper understanding of Torah. If u really understand Torah u may not want to attend church.Tor

Torah?

Creation1656 SG

Originally posted by 4sg:

Torah?

Torah is the scriptures that Hashem personally gave to Moses in the year 2448 after creation.

noahnoah SG

what is toreh?

Creation1656 SG

Originally posted by noahnoah:

what is toreh?

The written Torah, aka, the 5 books of Moses, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers & Deuteronomy. The oral Torah is the instructions by Hashem that is passed down by the isrealites from generations to generations orally.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

Creation Christianity is not Judaism. Yes it has got its roots in Judaism but it's not Judaism strictly speaking. For one Judaism do not believe in Jesus Christ.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

I have lost a lot of my own time and $$$ contributed

to Church for years

in the end i dun know what i gain also

Really I think that is somewhat common nowadays. people just lose sight of developing a relatonship with God and instead cheer and busy themselves with new friends and contacts even getting actively involved in the church organization.

Did you join the church to strengthen your contacts and make new friends or to get to know God?

It's like a mousetrap. After awhile when God seems so inactive and silent people would busy themselves with whatever else the church is offering and got lost sight of their initial intention of getting to know God.

The question was what have you lost for Christ's sake and what have you gained in place? Not what have you lost for the church's sake.

I'm not saying that every church or any church is bad no of course but people tend to lose their way by becoming too active in the things that matter less and hence thus losing the thing that they wanted in the first place that is the knowlege of God and a personal relationship with God. Having the knowledge of God and building a personal relationship with God is not impossible simply because God is the living God.

How many slave has ever become 2nd to a king in a country?

One that was Joseph son of Jacob. If Joseph was relying on his own strength would you think he would become what he became? According to human wisdom what Joseph accomplished was impossible. But it did happen. Why? because of the living God.

Do you want to be like Joseph or Daniel or Jacob or Peter or David? Or do you want to be like the Pharisee in Jesus time? Each of the former had had some personal relationship and knowledge of God while the after busied themselves with rituals and religious texts.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

Sorry if my post is a bit long I just want to add this

That as a Christian having the knowlege of God and having a personal relationship with God is essential. Otherwise your life couldn't become a living testimony of the glory of the living God. What would Christians become when God is no longer with them?

How would they testify to their Moslems brothers and sisters, to their Buddhist brothers and sisters or to the Hindus or Atheist when they do not have knowlege of the living God and have no personal relationsip with God? How would they convince others of the existence of a living God? Bible texts or church doctrine? No. Outsiders do not value them. Only believers do.

Others would see that that kind of Christians are no better than them. So God, the only living God cannot be glorified.

This is not an attact intended to pun anyone. But you may take it as a wake up call.

Cool-gal SG

ive lost my past wilful n insensible life but ive gain faith and disciplinary.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

I've read books of what fellow Christians had to let go in order to follow Christ.

One lost her relationship with her entire family and her inheritance.

One had to endure severe abuses and being chased around like criminal in his own country for spreading the gospel.

Both have lost quite significant portion of their life but yet they both gained a lot from God too. The sister who was shunned by her entire family brought back to life her dead sister who then became a Christian. To cut the testimony short she finally migrated out from her country to Britain after healing a dying British on his bed.

There is a hefty price to pay for following Christ in case you haven't realised it and the enemy of every Christian is the devil itself who intends on making life as difficult as God permitted.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

ive lost my past wilful n insensible life but ive gain faith and disciplinary.

It's a good start ;-)

4sg SG

Torah is the scriptures that Hashem personally gave to Moses in the year 2448 after creation.

oic......

tot u mean the japanese....

tora..... tora.... tora.....

dumbdumb! SG

my family grew closer. my dad stopped becoming frustrated and easily losing his temper, and his gambling habits disappeared, he's now a cell leader, and one of the more famous ones for fearlessly of sharing the gospel and organizing alpha sessions.

i have a really wonderful spiritual family in my church. i have a wonderful mentor whom i can always turn to, and always opening up his family to me. i have a wonderful cell leader who is really like my 2nd father who takes me as his own son and his children are like my own siblings. i have a wonderful sister-in-christ whom i can share my secrets with, knowing she will always love me and never judge me, and will always be a listening ear to me. and through her, her fiance also takes me in as his little brother.

And on top of all these, i have a great relationship with a wonderful Father, who loves me and takes me as i am, who took all that is ugly in me, and i can always come into His presence.

i lost a girlfriend. but somehow.. it just seems so.. insignificant to the things i've received.

feeling so blessed now, just thinking about it.

What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ

This was what Apostle Paul felt. As someone who had everything, a roman citizen, one of the teachers of the law, holding high prestige and honour from men, became totally nothing, a lowly tent maker, while being an apostle.

googoomuck SG

I have lost a lot of my own time and $$$ contributed

to Church for years

in the end i dun know what i gain also

$2 for 2 hours of air-con comfort in a church is cheaper than a movie ticket...unless you considered the time spent as wasted.

googoomuck SG

I've been slain in the spirit 5 times over the years but it has stopped coming after I began to occasionally skip Sunday service due of job commitment.

caleb_chiang SG

$2 for 2 hours of air-con comfort in a church is cheaper than a movie ticket...unless you considered the time spent as wasted.

Erm... did he mentioned 2 bucks?

dumbdumb! SG

put in $50, dig out $48