Did God Cancel her debt ?

Durotar SG

You did not reserve your judgement. You said generally you'd take it as the truth. :P

Haha...Icemoon, I think we should take this to PMs...

I did say "generally". Perhaps I am really bad at clarifying myself, as I am wont to do for many of my posts in sgforums; I apologise. Forgive me, ok?

You might then ask, why generally? My point of view is, why not? If a certain good thing happens to someone, who knows, it may really be from God.

For the example given, I said I can't find any evidence of it being true or fake. I can't see how it might be fake, but given the points raised by Mrlimkopi, it is also possible that it might not be true (as in not from God).

Icemoon SG

Haha...Icemoon, I think we should take this to PMs...

Then how to increase rating?

Chin Eng SG

I suspect your wife must be beside you and her expression changed somewhat upon hearing that. :P

actually there's a whole bunch of us with travelling jobs who think that such "irresponsible prophecies" are quite harmful...

... and I think sometime after that, the pastor put a stop to such sharing.

Chin Eng SG

Test everything, indeed. So who am I to judge whether the testimony is what God is really working through or not?

Once again, I feel that when we do stand before God, we are to account for all our words and actions, no? For me, I don't feel like I can judge that testimony, simply because I don't have the facts to conclude whether it's really God's miraculous intervention or not.

Of course, if you are convinced, and you have tested it and found it true/false, then good. I'm not against people criticising it if they choose to do so.

It's just I myself can't find any evidence of it being true or fake. Thus, I would reserve my judgment.

we need to go back to the needs and purposes of testimonies.

testimonies are not there for folks to do the on-up on others. testimonies are firstly suppose to be personal experiences. if i were to go on the sanctuary to testify that God save my life because a runaway car just missed me by an inch.... fine....

but, if i were to go there to impose my spiritual understand to others and want others to do the same.... then there will be issues... even though i may claim that God "spoke" through me....

Mrlimkopi SG

Chin Eng,

Perhaps, you missed the point somehow....I am not against giving testimony. If you says you are missed by a runaway car by an inch and you believed that it was God's grace that saved you, I don't see what's wrong.

Going back to the main issue of this thread. The fact is that such a thing happened in Singapore....anyone who has taken a loan with any bank will know that there are proper documentations....in case of a housing loan, there are title deeds filed with governmemt agencies, income tax etc..... Do you really think it can happen?

How did $300,000.00 disappear from the bank? What happen to the banking system, government agencies etc..?

With God everything is possible but.....God don't cheat.....

Another point of thought....will God be in cahoot with anyone to make legitimate money disappear from the bank? In this case, the woman's gain is at the expense of someone else.....the bank and their shareholders....right? God will never cheat and go contradict his own teachings.

The most important point is, why did the church allow such a highly suspected testimony in the first place? Of course they know before hand as the letter was projectedd on screen. Perhaps, they are author of this testimony? I don't know and hopping someone who knows more about this will shed some light.....

Testimony are personal experiences with God but it's the responsibility of the church and it's leaders to ensure that suspected testimony are not allowed......and highly controversial ones are not allowed. And if they allow it, they must at least have verified it.

Trust this make sense.

Chin Eng SG

Chin Eng,

....

Trust this make sense.

actually, i think you are missing my point....

i was responding to durotar... i think it is safe to assume that we (you and i) are in agreement to most of the points.

you quotation of my example about the runaway car - you are saying exactly the same thing i am saying.

your example about whether God is cheating the bank or not - it is also an echo between you and i - God does not bend his laws to serve men's needs.

Mrlimkopi SG

sori that I mis-understood you....

Icemoon SG

thanks for contributing to the rating, both of you. lol

domonkassyu SG

heck..that mega church is bsing 100%

my 1st visit to CHC taught me to be greedy in material stuff. they got this ang moh speaker to speak.very smooth talker.

teach us to give more ($$ obviuously) to the church and God will return us more. even gave us a story on a fisherman with 2 pins .every fish he caught will be measured against that 2 pins.fish bigger than that will be thrown out.

eventually people got curious and ask him why.his answer is simple. the 2 pins marked the size of his fryin pan.big fishes cant fit in so he throws them back.so people asks him why doesnt he jus change a bigger pan to cook the bigger fish..

in the end..that speaker kept giving "anecdotes" that certain members gave a big amount of $$ to the church. and they got some bigger rewards from God...

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