Jesus is a Jew

malcom SG

Your statement is misleading.

Shouldn't Jesus sing the same tune as the prophets in the Old Testament? And Hebrews does present Him as the final revelation/last prophet. So there shouldn't be a case where there is some kind of dispute and His decision prevails and overrides the prophets of old.

Yes I agree that they should sing the same tune as all the message is from God the Trinity. As you read through the bible, you will find that it is not always the case. The prophets are humans like us, as compare to Jesus who is the Word of God, sometime also influence by human judgment, or pressure. In case there is any dispute, as Christians we should know which one to follow first.

For example of the dispute, read Mat 19:3-12

Who do you mean by Hebrews? Jewish people never acknowledge Jesus as God, or prophet, certainly not messiah, until today.

malcom SG

Your statements are misleading as well.

Where did you gather that Christians have the duty to follow the 10 commandments?

And the rationale of observing the hundreds of laws are not as what you wrote, about hygience, health and such, though they may be peripheral reasons. The Old Testament DOES record down some of the rationale.

Cheers.

Christians need to follow 10 commandments, I think it is in catecheism of Catholic church. We are in mortal sin when we violate 10 commandments. Souls of those who die in mortal sin will descend to hell.

Creation1656 SG

Originally posted by malcom:

How about this commandment: " Remenber the sabbath day and keep it holy." Exodus 20:8 Tanakh JPS. Just ask around, how many christians really observe the sabbath and keep it holy. If what you said is true, don't you think that it is better for Christians to follow the teachings of Rabbinic Judaism? Rabbinic Judaism only obligated gentiles to observe the 7 universal laws of Noah.

Icemoon SG

Who do you mean by Hebrews? Jewish people never acknowledge Jesus as God, or prophet, certainly not messiah, until today.

I mean the Book of Hebrews. That Jesus is the final prophet/revelation should be clear to those who have read it. First chapter somemore leh.

Icemoon SG

Unorthodox doctrine.

Since when prophets speak prophetically not the Word of God?

Icemoon SG

For example of the dispute, read Mat 19:3-12

Interesting. I could write about this some other time. Thanks.

Icemoon SG

How about this commandment: " Remenber the sabbath day and keep it holy." Exodus 20:8 Tanakh JPS. Just ask around, how many christians really observe the sabbath and keep it holy

Actually it doesn't really matter, isn't it?

No matter how they argue about being Abraham's spiritual descendant, as long they have not converted to become a Jew, they are not obligated to follow the Jewish commandments.

Christians are truly Abraham's spiritual descendants. If you read the Jewish tradition, Abraham was the first evangelist for monotheism. So whoever knows God from him or his descendants can be considered his spiritual descendants.

Look at the issue from the Jewish perspective. It doesn't really matter.

malcom SG

Catholic makes worship on Lord's day compulsory, means it is a mortal sin not to go to Church on Sunday (or Saturday evening).
Regarding why we use Sunday instead of Saturday, I also have no answer. It has been discussed and argued by many people, so I don't intend to join the discussion.
Interestingly 7 day week system is used by Jewish and non-Jewish people, and somehow everyone agrees that Jewish's 7th days is Sabbath, and non-Jewish's 7th day is Saturday, and Sunday is agreed also to be the first day of the week.

For your remark that it is better for Christians to follow Rabbinic Judaism, I am not sure about others, I embrace Catholic faith not because it is better for me, but because I believe that it is the truth, and from the truth that I know and believe, I found that it is not what I think better for me that is important, but what God wants is more important.

Icemoon SG

For your remark that it is better for Christians to follow Rabbinic Judaism, I am not sure about others, I embrace Catholic faith not because it is better for me, but because I believe that it is the truth, and from the truth that I know and believe, I found that it is not what I think better for me that is important, but what God wants is more important.

Mai lai lah .. we all know the real reason. What God wants can be found in the Old Testament. But then nobody wants to burden himself with all the commandments. 10 already buay tahan liao, not to mention 613.

At least Catholics not too bad lah. Rather than forsaking bak kua like the Jews, they go for lesser sacrifice, like forsaking meat or even food every now and then.

Princess Rose SG

For following the 10 commandments,

Heb.8.10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

小白脸 SG

Dear Jesus, forgive them for they know not what they write

Icemoon SG

For following the 10 commandments,

never say the 10 commandments leh.

domonkassyu SG

First I want to start off by saying that I am not trying to cause any trouble by asking the following question.

It is to my understanding that Jesus is a Jew.

Since Christians believe in Jesus, should they not believe in what he believe in? i.e. Jewish faith

How does a person sign up to join the Jewish faith?

yes christ is a jew. By right, judaism must believe in what Christ said and judaism IF they follwed what christ said,they are the ultimate christians.

however....those rabbi in power do not allow some "punk" to unseat their power with some "I'm-the-son-of-God" talk..hence they rejected them as foretold and still waited for the messiah who came and gone.

the whole christianity/judaism seems like a software update.

judaism as version 1.(God of Adam,abraham,david, etc...)

pre roman cath...Ver 1.1

roman cath...ver 1.1.1

protestants...ver1.1.2

any other...Ver so on and so forth kinda thing.

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