do you recognise the pope?

last SG · 2008-04-28T11:38:34+00:00

if all christians are saints, then the ah beng christians out there are what?angels?

Jamie Zawinski SG

he's higher than a saint right?

dumbdumb! SG

i believe that all christians are saints.

haha, so i respect the pope as much as i respect a pastor i guess.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

All Christians are saints?!

Hahahahahahaha get out of here...

He's actually shorther than most European men. So the only time he's higher than a saint is when some guys lift him up. LOL. We catholics worship God immanuel who descended into human form and not a mere human. But we do recognise the Pope auhority in the Catholic church organization. Somebody must lead all the flocks and shepherds.

but I respect the pope as much as I respect the pastor like you do dumbdumb.

Eddie Lee SG

I recognize the pope as the head of the Catholic Church but nothing else.

But that's all. He means nothing to me.

the Bear SG

i wonder if M&P knows what he is talking about at all?

dumbdumb! SG

All Christians are saints?!

Hahahahahahaha get out of here...

but I respect the pope as much as I respect the pastor like you do dumbdumb.

is there smth wrong with saying that all christians are saints?

the Bear SG

is there smth wrong with saying that all christians are saints?

the protestants call all christians saints..

however, catholics look to Saints as those who have been canonised.. which takes a LONG time after all the research and stuff which goes into finding out the life of the person, miracles, beatification... the works..

Saints include those who are martyrs... who have to be canonised too...

to compare the (living) Pope to (physically dead but spiritually living in heaven) Saints in terms of "higher and lower" is kind of absurd..

dumbdumb! SG

haha i'm protestant. so there's nothing wrong with me saying that sentence right. why M&P laughed?

the Bear SG

haha i'm protestant. so there's nothing wrong with me saying that sentence right. why M&P laughed?

nope..

as to why he's laughing, goodness knows... goodness knows..

Miracles&Prophecies SG

To say somebody is a saint means that person leads a holy life.

If all Christians are really saints all of them would be able to perform miracles.

The world would also be a much better place to live because Christians number 1/3 of the world's population.

So if you say you're a saint do you claim to lead a holy life thus being worthy to be called a holy person?

Peter the apostle was definitely a saint his mere shadow healed the sick

The more recent Padre Pio a receiver of stigmata was also a saint.

Catholics are also Christians.

However all Christians have the capacity to be a saint if they decide to follow on the footsteps of Jesus. Unfortunately many professed Christians lead life far from the grace of God.

24/7 SG

To Protestant Christians, 'saints' are a designation, not of individual moral purity or miracle making prowess, but of spiritual union with Christ (Phil 1:1; Rom 1:7; 1 Cor 1:2). Therefore, we are all 'saints'. It's different from the Catholics who believe in 'Saints', persons formally canonized by the Catholic Church.

I believe I am not able to be a holy person at all, but I am called to lead a holy life.

That's why we call it the grace of God, because we don't deserve it. It's all from the giver, God. Christ's righteousness is cloaked upon us, and the Holy Spirit empowers our sanctification.

How special is receiving stigmata within the Catholic Church?

24/7 SG

Forgot to reply TS' qn.

If this is meant to incite some polemical arguments between Catholics and Christians, pls don't go further. But a discourse is welcome.

I'm a Protestant Christian, I don't recognize the Pope's authority. As far as i know, most Protestants don't. Doesn't mean i don't respect him or his work. Just that i wouldn't take doctrinal teachings from him, i wouldn't accept his infallibility even when teaching about Jesus, i wouldnt recognize the dogmas he proclaims.

Miracles&Prophecies SG

Hi 24/7 Oh that is what it meant for the Protestant.

The reciever of stigmata would usually recieve a beatification to sainthood in the Catholic church. That is usually but not always. And they only receive beatification only after death. The majority are quite a long time after death so mother Teresa was quite an exception actually though she wasn't a stigmata receiver.

As far as I know Padre Pio a reciever of stigmata hasn't been beatified yet or still in the process of getting it. But he has been known to be a saint to many people already. Julia Kim of Naju Korea another stigmata reciever who still lives even doesn't get the Korean church support. The Korean church doesn't acknowledge Julia Kim's miraces yet. Though she once visted the Pope(late John Paul II) in Rome and during the mass with the pope her eucharistic host tuned into flesh and blood.

In another twist there was the famous Saint George the slayer of dragon which the Church has erased from its official sainthood list. He's most probably just a myth.

mhcampboy SG

pope wears prada!! lol

anyway, i recognise him as head of the catholic church... and i will give him the same respect he gets...

much like.. u dun talk to the prime minister like how u talk to ur maid.... sumtin like tat..

SingaporeMacross SG

Long live the Pope!

Mrlimkopi SG

Hi everybody,

Pope is a successor of St Peter (the head of the 12 apostle appointed by Jesus). Historical facts support that. Thus, he receive and command the kind of status because he is recognised as the representitive of Jesus. The Pope leads all the believers of Christ as the shepherd of his flocks.

There is an interesting article (long though) that Christians (especially the Prostestant) should read with an open mind and start praying and searching ........ to seek the truth from God.

Go to : http://sgforums.com/forums/1683/topics/92087?page=1#posts-

God bless you all.

dumbdumb! SG

Hi everybody,

There is an interesting article (long though) that Christians (especially the Prostestant) should read with an open mind and start praying and searching ........ to seek the truth from God.

Go to : http://sgforums.com/forums/1683/topics/92087?page=1#posts-

God bless you all.

shrugs, all christians are representative of Jesus, why do you think non believers hate Jesus when they see us doing things that we shouldn't be doing?

Mrlimkopi SG

Well, I think you understand what I mean...

I don't think people will hate Jesus when they see things that we do - which they think we shouldn't be doing.

But, we need to be careful not to do things and says it is because of Jesus - for Jesus teaches us to love each other as how he love us. He also says the most important is "To your neighbour".

Christianity is all about, faith, hope and love and nothing is more important than love.

God Bless.

dumbdumb! SG

Well, I think you understand what I mean...

I don't think people will hate Jesus when they see things that we do - which they think we shouldn't be doing.

But, we need to be careful not to do things and says it is because of Jesus - for Jesus teaches us to love each other as how he love us. He also says the most important is "To your neighbour".

Christianity is all about, faith, hope and love and nothing is more important than love.

God Bless.

oh you'll be surprised how non believers will think abt Jesus just by studying believers' conduct.

laurence82 SG

oh you'll be surprised how non believers will think abt Jesus just by studying believers' conduct.

of course, when believers justify it by using jesus name