Response to Dr Laura on homosexuality

googoomuck SG

You cruel? I'm 'scared'.

A speculation is a speculation.

Ambiguousness is Ambiguousness.

An inconsistency can be a contradiction.

Your idea of contradiction refers to all three of the above with the addtion of your own wrong assumptions and reasonings.

That's why you are a dumb schmuck.

If you, a modern man, can make such errors even with the convenience of the books and the internet at your disposal, frankly those witnesses that lived thousands of years ago were better than you. They had to commit to memory many events that took place when writing materials were not available. After a few decades, they were prone to miss out some details or mix up the chronological order of the events when they had to recall from memory. The authors, all came from different walks of life, were also free to include or ommit details to suit a different audience.These are reasonable assumptions.

When I have my doubts, I'll believe the educated guesses or opinions of people with good analytical minds, not those coming from some dumb schmucks.

I appreciate that the words were not altered for 'authenticity' after they were officially finalized as holy scriptures.

stupidissmart SG

Your idea of contradiction refers to all three of the above with the addtion of your own wrong assumptions and reasonings

Then tell me the answer for below

1. The number of women tat went in the morning (matthew: 2 people. Mark: 3 people. Luke: at least 4 and above. John: 1)

2. The number of angels and how they appeared (matthew: 1 angel flew down, caused earthquake, roll stone then. Mark: 1 Angel appeared outside after women went in. Luke: Suddenly 2 angles appeared outside after women went out. John: No angel)

3. Women behavior after (matthew: Met jesus, happily tell other to go to mountain where jesus preach. Mark: women afraid and keep quiet. Luke: tell to the disciples, who don't believed them. John: Mary told disciples, and they ran to tomb)

4. How mary meet jesus (matthew: outside tomb, with another mary, before telling disciples. Mark: drive out 7 spririts from mary. Luke: never mention. John: mary cry outside tomb, after disciples left then jesus appeared)

U says it does not contradict, then explain all of them la ! If these r not contradictions, then wat is ? Unless u can answer all of them, then u r the dumb schmuck. Instead of proving there is no inconsistencies, u decide to go personal and just scold me without showing justifications. If u wanna scold, then scold lor..

If you, a modern man, can make such errors even with the convenience of the books and the internet at your disposal, frankly those witnesses that lived thousands of years ago were better than you.

Wat error did I make ? Without having a conclusion, u already judged tat I am wrong. Wow.

They had to commit to memory many events that took place when writing materials were not available. After a few decades, they were prone to miss out some details or mix up the chronological order of the events when they had to recall from memory. The authors, all came from different walks of life, were also free to include or ommit details to suit a different audience.These are reasonable assumptions.

It is not about ommiting details. It is about completely different point altogether. U try to downplay it as though there is no contradictions but u failed. U cannot prove it. U agreed tat there is contradictions by mentioning "miss out details" when they have to "recall from memories".

Talking about human error into the bible, then u r in trouble. Which part is right or wrong ? Any part of the bible u read can be human errors. The authors can be over zealous and add in his own details in. The author may not like tis detail and take it out. Then wat do u have ? A faulty scripture. If u go indepth, there r many more contradiction and logical flaws in the bible. Wat does it tell ?

stupidissmart SG

Didn't realise u have post another reply before my reply. Anyway here goes

Who r the first witnesses to jesus ?

First, technically speaking, Jesus appeared to 2 Mary at the same time for matthew. For Mark, the story is puzzling but they do say jesus appear to mary magdalene first. For Luke, the first time jesus appeared is to 2 guys. For john, it appeared to mary magdalene.

If u wanna say tat they never specifically mentioned in Luke tat the first person jesus met is the 2 guy, then it is also not technically right to say mary met jesus first in John and matthew as well because they never specifically say they r the first witnesses as well. If u look at the time frame for Luke, a reasonable reader can inferred the first witnesses r the 2 guys. And it is a suprise because it is an important point and it is silly to left it out

googoomuck SG

Didn't realise u have post another reply before my reply. Anyway here goes

Who r the first witnesses to jesus ?

Mark

16:9-11 - When Jesus rose early on that first day of the week, he appeared first of all to Mary of Magdala, from whom he had driven out seven evil spirits. And she went and reported this to his sorrowing and weeping followers. They heard her say that he was alive and that she had seen him, but they did not believe it.

Did Jesus drove the evil spirits away from Magdalene after she first saw the resurrection or was the verse referring to the exorcism that Jesus had performed on her when he first met her before his crucifixion, mentioned in Luke 8.2? It’s your wrong assumption in your summary that Jesus drove out the demons when he appeared to Magdalene after his resurrection!

Was it possible that the other Mary was also present but Mark only focused on Magdalene who saw Jesus first?

Matthew

28:8 - Then the women went away quickly from the tomb, their hearts filled with awe and great joy, and ran to give the news to his disciples.

28:9-10 - But quite suddenly, Jesus stood before them in their path, and said, "Peace be with you!" And they went forward to meet him and, clasping his feet, worshipped him. Then Jesus said to them, "Do not be afraid. Go now and tell my brothers to go into Galilee and they shall see me there"

For argument sake, did both Mary stuck together like glue? But quite suddenly, Jesus stood before them. Could it be possible that Magdalene looked up and saw him first before he caught the attention of the other Mary, who could have be a few feet behind Magdalene? We can’t be certain that both Marys saw him at the same instant..

Luke

24:8-9 - Then they did remember what he had said, and they turned their backs on the tomb and went and told all this to the eleven and the others who were with them.

24:10-12 - It was Mary of Magdala, Joanna, the mother of James, and their companions who made this report to the apostles. But it struck them as sheer imagination, and they did not believe the women. Only Peter got up and ran to the tomb. He stooped down and saw the linen clothes lying there all by themselves, and he went home wondering at what had happened.

The walk to Emmaus

24:13-17 - Then on the same day we find two of them going off to Emmaus, a village about seven miles from Jerusalem. As they went they were deep in conversation about everything that had happened. While they were absorbed in their serious talk and discussion, Jesus himself approached and walked along with them, but something prevented them from recognizing him. Then he spoke to them, "What is all this discussion that you are having on your walk?"

24:18 - They stopped, their faces drawn with misery, and the one called Cleopas replied, "You must be the only stranger in Jerusalem who hasn't heard all the things that have happened there recently!"

Luke did not say that any women had seen Jesus on their way back from the tomb. Neither did Luke said that the two men were the first to see Jesus after the resurrection on the same day. If there’s any contraction here, it’s purely speculation.

What is important about who saw Jesus first? The stories said that he appeared to hundreds of people on different occasions.

Now are you satisfied that you are a dumb schmuck?

stupidissmart SG

U know wat u r doing. U just proved to other people wat subjective reading is. U add in the details yourself and interprete the whole scripture completely different from the literal meaning.

First thing first, u have not replied to the list of 4 questions I had asked on the earlier post. I wanna see how creative u can get in interpreting them

Come on lah... u read the passage yourself.

Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him.

The above is exactly the same wording when they see jesus for the first time. Now u tell me they do not stick like glue and Mary is the one who saw it first. Says who ? U r adding in your own details into the passage which otherwise is not there. Look at who is not only dumb, but dishonest schmuck around here. If u read at it literally, they meet jesus together. Otherwise u have to prove they did not see together

Was it possible that the other Mary was also present but Mark only focused on Magdalene who saw Jesus first?

All the actions mentioned Mary herself and not with other people. If it is 2 people who tell the disciples at the same time, it doesn't make coherent sense tat she include one and not the other. Look at Matthew They say both women tell disciples. If u look at Luke, all the women tell all the people wat they experienced at the tomb. If u look at John. it do hint tat Mary is alone. Now u tell me Mary is not alone in Mark. Given the evidence tat there is not mention of other people, u have to prove tat out instead of speculating.

U failed to read properly. Luke 24:13

Now that same day two of them are going to a village called Emmaus

It is the same day the women went to the tomb ! Dumb dishonest schmuck, r u convinced now ? And I never say tat in Luke the women saw jesus. I say they didn't. I say the first witness according to Luke r the 2 guys. Did u read at all, dumb schmuck ?

What is important about who saw Jesus first? The stories said that he appeared to hundreds of people on different occasions.

I am proving there r bible contradictions and there r abundant of it. Tat becomes important. U know there r much more contradictions in the bible and if there r contradictions, anything u read from the bible can be wrong

stupidissmart SG

Going by googoomuck reading ability, I can deduced who is the first witness to jesus resurrection

Yes it is true

It is the Flying Spaghetti Monster !!! (to many cheers and clap)

Why ? If u read the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, NONE OF THEM SAYS the flying spaghetti monster is not present ! Since no one specifically mention tat line, then it means it is possible ! Tat is how googoomuck always say right ? If the bible don't mention it, he can play and twist and corrupt anything he like and just list it as "possible". Flying spaghetti monster is possible too then !

Furthermore, if u look at Luke, John and Matthew, they never say the first people who see Jesus r Mary. Tat means the first person who witness it is someone else, and it is the flying spaghetti monster ! Just like wat googoomuck like to say. Mary appears to be alone, but no line saying she is alone, so it must means she is not alone ! Wow ! Since these 3 books never say Mary is the first witness, then the first witness can be FSM ! So FSM is the first witness and googoomuck is wrong !

Why do the authors not include it in the bible ? It is because they forgot after some time... u know 20-30 years never write it out, their memory rusty etc. So they forgot to write accurately and leave out tis detail. U know they cater to different people and thought the details not important one... Since tis is expected, then we can expect the authors to leave out the flying spaghetti monster in their account too. U don't like wat I said ? Sorry, tat is wat googoomuck said about the authors. Don't blame me

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