what happens to non-christians after death

last SG · 2007-10-04T10:00:34+00:00

I think we have fairly answered the question of the threadstarter. I know there are disagreements. It will be endless to go on about. I don't think we wish t...

mancha SG

Of people who have been unconscious, some report that they have seen
" a white light"
" a spiralling tunnel"
" their own body"
" a beautiful scenery"
" a stair way to heaven"
" a bearded man, in white robe..."
" paradise"
these are often sensationalised as near death experiences.

And what is " seen" is actually dependent on the belief of the person.

So those who subscribe to Pak Yah, and his Giant Teapot and such, will of course, report being beconed into a giant teapot as their near death experience.

Belief is the key to the experience.
But then belief is only in a living person, albeit unconscious.
Does a dead person still have belief?

Chin Eng SG

the key word to this question is "evidence"....

what is admissible evidence to you?

as I had clearly stated, the statement that Christians go to heaven is solely from the Christian POV. You'd ask the same question to a person from another beliefs (religious or otherwise) their evidence is solely based on their POV.

so again, what is admissible evidence to you? obviously from the Christian POV, the "evidence" per se is only from the Bible, which, of course, you do not admit as evidence, so that being the case, there is really no common ground for any further discussion.

Chin Eng SG

quite funny... the exchange between PK and TGE.... Laughing

funny as in humourous.... not funny as in stupid.

TheGoodEarth SG

hahaha, I would be glad if nobody cares where I go. That is freedom! So I go here and there, no matter what. If others want to go where they want to go whether now or dead, it doesn't matter much to me, unless they are backpacking with me!!!!

Chin Eng SG

or perhaps you're still lost in the mountain looking for that elephant... still saddled with all the questions you'd left unanswered...

and yes.... those of us at EH have been very patient.... Laughing

soulwinner SG

The bible say go hell….

TheGoodEarth SG

Indeed the keyword is 'evidence'. I was not asking for POV. If point of view then it is pointless to discuss. As for the meaning of evidence, can you look up the dictionary?

davidche SG

hahaha, you are always here, had always been here and will always be here, as far as you are concerned.No matter where you go, you are always "here". To others you go here and there but to you, there is no such thing.

sry but at first read i didnt see anything funny since it is quite logical.

but now. Laughing

Chin Eng SG

The Christian evidence is the Bible, but since it will not be an admissible to you, we are only left with POV.

Likewise, to ask a non-believer about heaven, we will be left with the conclusion that non-believer CANNOT prove that heaven DOES NOT exists....

Can you prove that you are still on the mountain? Laughing

sillyme SG

As stated by some, we do not have evidence if such a place really exists.

The thing we are certain is that as Christians, we can have a relationship with our God. We commune with Him, and allow Him to change our lives. In return, we bless others around us. And that is itself a heavenly experience.

Icemoon SG

There is no scientific evidence for afterlife.

Happy? Mr. Green

davidche SG

Originally posted by Chin Eng:

The Christian[b] evidence is the Bible, but since it will not be an admissible to you, we are only left with POV.

Likewise, to ask a non-believer about heaven, we will be left with the conclusion that non-believer CANNOT prove that heaven DOES NOT exists....

Can you prove that you are still on the mountain? Laughing [/b]

Quite hard to prove a non-existence.

selfobliged SG

Huh? Shouldn't it be the other way round? The deeds we do in this earth determines your life after death...be it heaven or hell.

sillyme SG

Uh. I don't quite understand what you are getting at.

I said that what matters is to live out a life God intended now. What do you mean the other way round?

TheGoodEarth SG

hahaha, can you proof Moses was up at Mt Sinai?

hmmm .... everything in the bible is truth?

how many people in this world are christians?

Icemoon SG

There is no scientific evidence Moses was at Sinai.

TheGoodEarth SG

which mean there is no scientific evidence there is heaven...
..... hmm happy to note that.

Icemoon SG

Of course!

Since when there is scientific evidence of heaven?!

Bible also don't dare to proclaim that.

dumbdumb! SG

whatever helps you sleep better at night. Wink

davidche SG

Why not just make a thread about the 1001 things in the bible that have not been proved. Saves energy, saves effort and fufills anti-christians .

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