1) MINOR DEVIATION????? U cant even agree the nature of
Christ...some reject the Trinity etc. Even some protestants hold on
to Once Saved Always Saved, some to Lutherans Faith Alone, others
to the Catholic, Faith and Works. A Lutheran believe in the Real
Presence while the Pentecostal do not. An Anglican hold fast to
Apostolic Succession while the Methodost do not. Each contradict
the other. For one denomination to be right, the others have to be
wrong.
2) The Church does as Christ gave the Spirit to the Church and the
powers of binding and loosing to the Apostles and her successors
and the KEYS to Peter. The Church does is the pillar of truth and
not Scripture in 1 Tim 3:15. Furthermore, the Church will not hold
on to Sola Scriptura as it is not explicitly mentioned in
Scripture, it cannot explains the New Testament Canon, it was not
held by any Christian till the Reformation. I dont think Christ
would have left us in darkness till 1500s.
3) Catholics do not worship mary. We ask mary to intercede for us
as u ask ur pastor to pray for you. Those dogmas still exist today.
While the wolves in sheep clothings have abused those dogmas, the
dogmas in essence is true. To make it clear, indulgence is correct
but the man-made doctrine of indlugence being sold (not taught by
the Church) was prevalent. you cannot blame the Church for
these.
4) The Catholic Church existed since 33AD. I shall prove it to
you.
"See that ye all follow the bishop, even as Christ Jesus does
the Father, and the presbytery as ye would the apostles. Do ye also
reverence the deacons, as those that carry out the appointment of
God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the
bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is
[administered] either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has
entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the
multitude also be; by the bishop, or by one to whom he has
entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let
the multitude also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is
the Catholic Church." Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the
Smyrneans, 8:2 (c. A.D. 110).
St Ignatius was a student of the
Apostle Peter and john and lived thru Apostolic Times and was a
matry.
"[A]ll the people wondered that there should be such a difference
between the unbelievers and the elect, of whom this most admirable
Polycarp was one, having in our own times been an apostolic
and prophetic teacher, and bishop of the Catholic Church which is
in Smyrna. For every word that went out of his mouth
either has been or shall yet be accomplished." Martyrdom of
Polycarp, 16:2 (A.D. 155).
Polycarp was the favourite
student of Apostle John.
to be in honour however with the Catholic Church for the
ordering of ecclesiastical discipline...one to the
Laodicenes, another to the Alexandrians, both forged in
Paul's name to suit the heresy of Marcion, and several others,
which cannot be received into the Catholic Church; for it
is not fitting that gall be mixed with honey. The Epistle
of Jude no doubt, and the couple bearing the name of John, are
accepted by the Catholic Church...But of Arsinous, called
also Valentinus, or of Militiades we receive nothing at all. The
fragment of Muratori (A.D. 177).
The Catholic Church chose which
books were Scripture.
"[N]or does it consist in this, that he should again falsely
imagine, as being above this [fancied being], a Pleroma at one time
supposed to contain thirty, and at another time an innumerable
tribe of Aeons, as these teachers who are destitute of truly divine
wisdom maintain; while the Catholic Church possesses one
and the same faith throughout the whole world, as we have
already said." Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 1:10,3 (A.D. 180).
St irenaus who the student of
Polycarp and the hammer of the gnostics. the CC even then possesed
ONE faith.
For it is evident that those men lived not so long
ago,--in the reign of Antoninus for the most
part,--and that they at first were believers in the
doctrine of the Catholic Church, in the church of Rome
under the episcopate of the blessed Eleutherus, until on
account of their ever restless curiosity, with which they even
infected the brethren, they were more than once expelled.
Tertullian, On the Prescription Against Heretics, 22,30 (A.D.
200).
We see Church
Authority.
And hence it was the Church who selected which books were
scripture and which books was heretic and burnt it. This also
disproves Sola Scriptura,
5)The Bibles cost nearly 20yrs salary of a peasant. it took 3 yrs
to copy it hand by ahnd from the monks. And the Church translated
it into the many languages long before the Reformation. Show me an
example where u claim the atrocity has happened. And lastly, this
proves Sola Scriptura cannot work till the printing press was
invented as no one had Bible.
