Why Do God Have To Create (The Devil - Satan) and humans

last SG · 2006-11-12T19:01:55+00:00

Revelation 20:10 NIV And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. The...

Icemoon SG

You go and read about foreknowledge in theology then tell me what you think?

Skibi SG

Edited to clarify. Lucifer promotes this idea so that God will be seen as the source of evil. It is really a pagan view.

Icemoon SG

The idea that there is a bad angel in total opposition to God is itself a pagan view. Rolling Eyes

Icemoon SG

To anyone who still harbors the silly idea that Satan is the Evil .. please tell me how could Satan stand before God unscathed and unharmed in the Book of Job?

Can the evil and wicked stand before the Creator? Is he fit to stand before the Creator?

Wouldn't the shekinah of God kill him instantly? Rolling Eyes

Icemoon SG

Doesn't it blow your mind when Satan could have such free access to God?

.. when you were taught that Satan and his minons were banished from heaven due to their rebellion.

edit: should be minions. Mr. Green

M©+square SG

Thought i ask to give thought to it liao? Twisted Evil

Mr. Green

Icemoon SG

so what's the conclusion? Laughing

M©+square SG

I ask you to think about it then you ask me for conclusion. Laughing

Icemoon SG

Haha .. look at my complaints about the corruption of the Holy Scripture by the Christians.

I have thought about it enough.

Icemoon SG

Oh ya .. God cannot be the enemy of Satan also. Mr. Green

M©+square SG

Topic of Original Sin, not easy topic Laughing

MC siam.

Icemoon SG

the whole thing is a sham lah.

it is just something Christians invent to justify their monopoly on salvation.

M©+square SG

You mean this topic on Original Sin is a sham? Laughing

Icemoon SG

in a way it is .. 'cos we are discussing something which is non existent.

is it any wonder any discussion of this sort will lead to the participants going around in circles?

Someone asks a perfectly legitimate question. People respond. In the end everyone gets more confused.

I suggest we should just apply Occam Razzor. Laughing

M©+square SG

So... are you still in John Calvin's camp? Laughing

Icemoon SG

I always believe in squeezing wisdom out of anyone, be it the Catholic fathers or Protesant fathers.

Remember one central tenent of Calvinism is the idea that God is sovereign. I squeeze it out. Mr. Green

M©+square SG

You think you mix blood ah? Laughing
Will get aids one.

I also thought i'm mix blood. Neutral

Icemoon SG

nope .. I'm trying to engineer the perfect religion .. whahaah

Come to think of it .. Christianity itself is an amalgam of beliefs. I think one die faster from mixing charismatic blood and calvinism blood. Laughing

C&C .. command and conquer? No la .. two gay partners.

M©+square SG

I prefer to let this matter rest. Laughing

Icemoon SG

jokes aside, wisdom need not come from the theology. It can come from the attitude.

The attitude of how you view yourself in relation to God and the Bible. Do you have a God-centered theology? Or do you have a "me" theology?

In church-speak .. instead of proclaiming the Cross, you keep on hearing "by his stripes, you are healed". IMHO, this is a sign of a "me" theology.

Come to think of it .. I get irritated by people in MSN who use superlatives to describe God for their nick. Other than the mushy mushy feeling, I feel these people are immature. Do mature Christians use superlatives to describe God in their nick? Rolling Eyes

Perhaps these people have not grasped the Theology of the Cross. When can I see someone preaching a crucified Christ in their nick? Wink

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