Were all christians once catholic?

Icemoon SG

Laughing

SingaporeMacross SG

This is the view of the Church, though these days we are afraid to say it aloud.

SingaporeMacross SG

Indeed, Christianity was quite divided at it's beginning. Maybe the Gnostics are right? Shocked

The Orthodox aren't that bad; at least they have sacraments and all..

And, what's your take on Marcionism?

ben1xy SG

i will have more time on my hands after mid-november. i dun want to engage in debate halfway and run away to do my work.. so i better not start Wink

btw it's PhD (lower caps h). yes i am picky Mr. Green

Icemoon SG

You should know mah .. Protestantism is still on the heretics list of the Catholics.

Schismatic is by definition. Some Protestants refuse to accept the Catholic as brethens in Christ, this makes it all the more schismatic. Don't even talk about ecumenism.

Icemoon SG

You are picky? Trying to kid who?

It is Ph.D. Laughing

ben1xy SG

Embarassed

Icemoon SG

Regarding Marcionism .. I'm not really versed in Early Christianities or Proto-Orthodox Christianity (the word is academical, do google for it), other than it was a big threat to the early church. Maybe I read more then we can have some sharing session.

If the Gnostics are right .. then I am in for an advantage. Laughing

gasband SG

The practices of Gnostics are known as Diagnostics?

SingaporeMacross SG

Marcion, insisted that the God of the Old Testament was totally different from the God of the New Testamant. He insisted that there were two Gods! The reason why it was so dangerous was because his organisation was out in the open, and in large scale.

I think he would have wiped out the Gnostics, they probably have less resources than him..

Icemoon SG

Maybe leh!

Interesting .. do some research and tell us more lor! Very Happy

Icemoon SG

huh .. who wiped out the Gnostics?

Btw, Gnostics also believe in two Gods, just like Marcion.

SingaporeMacross SG

I never said that they were wiped out. They still exist to this very day. Razz

Like you said, politics. Maybe they were rivals.

gasband SG

ok i will do a DiaGNOSIS Laughing

vince69 SG

that's why I said before mah, both side sama sama
Some protestants calls the catholics as non-christians,
the catholics called the protestants heretics.
Sad

Icemoon SG

Calling people non-christians is worse. It means they are not in Christ.

Calling people heretical is not so bad, after all charismatics like to use this line - they call us heretical for our works of the Spirit never mind ,we have Christ can liao.

Icemoon SG

Were Marcion and the Gnostics rivals? Rolling Eyes

SingaporeMacross SG

aiyah, speculating only lah.... nobody knew what happened last time wad.

Icemoon SG

Wait a minute .. was Marcion himself a Gnostic or not? Laughing

'cos their belief in God (two Gods) like very similar leh.

ben1xy SG

haha. u chose the strong word, i tend to use Schismatics instead. But we acknowledge that you all are Christians lah. dun worry. actually, some Priests i speak to even discourage conversion.

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