january SG If god exists, why are there still children in Africa dying from poverty and disease. do you know the pain that these children are suffering from. can you hear their pain. do you even know their pain. each day, children suffers and finally die. and these has went on for decades already. why does god allow this poor people to suffer. why does he not help them. why is he so powerless if he is supposed to have powers. why are you all so stupid to think that god exist in the first place. or is it that god is not that good, that is why he allows suffering to occur to those innocent kids in africa. please imgaine... the kids are suffering now.... and there is no god at all. otherwise they would not have to go thru what they are going thru.....
MohamedF SG Guess you’re the kind of guy whose gonna blame god for the black plague, WWI, WWII, Somilia, Desert storm, sept 11, Iraqi invasion, AIDS….
MohamedF SG Oh yeah… The IMH was held in Singapore with millions of dollars invested to the meeting itself to talk about who to help africa… sian… wouldn’t that millions of dollars be put to better use in africa…?
january SG now by now you will think "god has a master plan for us.." so you are telling me that his master plan includes the reality that these african kids are supposed to grow up in harsh and sufferinf environment. they have to endure pain, and the lack of proper living standards and also face high chance of earrly death.... all these are part of the master plan???? why does this master plan seems so terrible? could not God come out with a better plan which has a better picture like this... the african kids receive a certain level of food and medicine they get education and could grow up to be useful people....... why could this be the master plan..... why does the master plan has to be filled with sufferings for this african kids... ok, you may argue "there is reason why God do what he does" so what is the reason. why does god want to play hide and seek with us and no tell us the reason.... If god wants to tell us something.. why does he have to make it so confusing..... if god has a master plan.. why does his master plan contains people who does not believe in him.... or is god to boring so he want to make our life as confusing as possible. and by not telling us any reason for some things...... god is indeed eccentric person if he indeed exist.... why does you people are so stupid to believe in his existence.... the answer is simple.... because you all are stupid....
january SG why does god has to make life so confusing... could not god just alleviate sufferings with a touch of an finger.... is not that what god supposed to be... omnipotent.... if he has to solve problems in life in such slow and inefficient ways of asking his believers to spread the message... doe it not make him a very inefficient person. he needs to spend few century of years and he still have not succeeded in making the whole world believe in him.... then if god exist... he is definietly quite a inefficient, and quite stupid. why not he just use his magic finger to solve everything... one finger raise up and everyone then believes in him already.... isnt that more efficient... or as i have.. maybe god is abit eccentric... he likes to make the process of making people believe in him as complicated and as slow as possible....
january SG my job is to educate god believers and lead them into non believer of god.... just doing my part down here.........
laoda99 SG I think it's IMF. There are so many mad pple in sgforums nowadays, IMH sure need a lot of money to maintain.
HerzogZwei SG 1) In my opinion there may not be a god. 2) Deriving from statment 1 so if there is no god there is no hell 3) Deriving from statement 1 and 2 there will be no afterlife. Most human beings will be afraid to acknowledge statement 3 is true. Meaning death is the end. Nothing more, kaput, end of story. Therefore ppl choose to belief in life after death and god. From another perspective. If there is a god. God must be fair. To be fair he must be equal. If he save 1 human being he must save all human beings. If he save human beings from everything then human will become weak and worthless. No point in having human beings in the first place. Btw human beings are too damn insignificant compare to the rest of the bloody universe. Thats why if there is a god. God is doing nothing. I suggest no point arguing, we'll find out when we die.
gasband SG oei, can u be clear about your agenda? cos I am confused. If you are trying to blame God or gods or goddesses for things you mentioned, thats strange, cos you dun even believe there is a god. So it is weird to hear you ask "why did God allow this and that......." when you dun even think there is a god. If you are trying to convince people that there is no god, please approach it with a more sensible approach becos how can you convince us when you are using something as an example when that something u dun even believe to exist?
Xtrider SG where is davidche? haha... ok la...this thread is better then the prove of god thingy, shows abit more maturity...not to worry though im not against u... just pointing out something..cheers...hehe...
gasband SG becos i see these self proclaimed atheists coming in and try so hard to prove that there is not God. fine enough that they have their own beliefs or convictions. But real atheists do not even ask such questions. Real atheists do not come to you and tell you "hey your god sucks cos he allows suffering" cos they dun even believe in god. They will come to you and tell you all about the theories and thoughts on why there is no god. Real atheists are not whiners. they are people with their own convictions. They do not attack other people's beliefs but just reinforced their own. So I really doubt these so called atheists. Are they really atheists or just out to attack other people's beliefs. I leave that open to interpretation.
gasband SG anyway i am not work up lah hehehe I am fine when anyone tells me that they dun believe in what i believe. I am not gonna lose sleep over that