hOPe for christians who committed adultery?

last SG · 2006-10-25T01:32:37+00:00

i also hope this never happens *twist my fingers*

M©+square SG

i love your siggy.

Ironside SG

then the next verse then says [notice the words in bold:

1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,

10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

1Co 6:11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

my friend the sins listed by Paul in verses 9-10 are not isolated cases. They are sins out of a lifestyle and a habit. David committed a lie but he was not a lier. A lier is one who has made lying his lifestyle.

A saved sinner will not make sin a habit and a lifestyle. Yes he may fail and fall but he doesn't enjoy being down there, he gets up and fights sin.

alvin74 SG

wad siggy???

M©+square SG

~ Jesus said, "Do you love me more than these?" ~

this verse.

alvin74 SG

Originally posted by Ironside:

then the next verse then says [notice the words in bold:

1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,

10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

1Co 6:11 [b]And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

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sori but verse 11 which says "were some of you", do these "were some of you" non-believers living in sinful lifestyles before receiving salvation & hence when they were converted, they could get their sins washed & forgotten...

but does it reference to christians who commit adultery able being washed & sanctified?

the point is, sin of Adultery is a grave sin, can God really forgive?
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Ironside SG

Do you remember Peter's case? He denied the Lord three times, yet when he REPENTED he was forgiven. David. he committed adultery, yet when he repented he was forgiven.

Or what about those Jews who voted for the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ, were they not forgiven when they repented Acts 2?

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Icemoon SG

Originally posted by Ironside:

Do you remember Peter's case? He denied the Lord three times, yet when he [b]REPENTED he was forgiven.

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you are not answering his question.

when did denial become a grave sin?

alvin74 SG

what so special about it???

M©+square SG

personal encounter.

Wink

Icemoon SG

erm .. I think Ironside has explained quite clearly just now. Refer to the part on parental forgiveness.

Ironside SG

Lu 12:9 "But he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God.

Icemoon SG

wa leow eh .. your own siggy you say nothing special??

shouldn't you put a more special siggy then? Laughing

Icemoon SG

bo dai ji .. Peter was forgiven right? Laughing

You just shot yourself on the foot. Wink

Edit: wait a minute .. I think it is really bo dai ji .. who cares about the angels of God? If you want to know what is grave sin, then read the next part - blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

alvin74 SG

yes.. but.. i cant really believe GOD can forgive the sin when the sin is committed willingly (meaning with disregard to God's holy laws from the part of the christian) and even tho there is remorse & repentance..

God, help my unbelief..

Icemoon SG

actually what is the scenario like?

You know it is wrong and you purposely do it?

Ironside SG

yeah, he was forgiven. that was the point. He was saying that adultery is a serious sin and doubts God's forgiveness about those who commit these kinds of sins.

I told him that look Peter denied the Lord three times but he was forgiven.

Then you said: when did denial become a serioius sin?

I answered:

Lu 12:9 "But he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God.

if the Lord could forgive such a serioius sin as denying Him, then He could also forgive him about adultery.

Icemoon SG

I added in an edit just now:

Edit: wait a minute .. I think it is really bo dai ji .. who cares about the angels of God? If you want to know what is grave sin, then read the next part - blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

After reading the part in Luke .. I don't understand how is that a grave sin, as compared to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit when Jesus said you will not be forgiven.

Ironside SG

here's a parallel verse:

Mt 10:33 "But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.

Icemoon SG

I thought about it and realized this is the wrong focus.

Instead of hoping for forgiveness, why not accept that you have erred and wait for punishment?

Like the chinese saying - one missed step becomes an eternal regret.

Icemoon SG

Originally posted by Ironside:

here's a parallel verse:

Mt 10:33 "But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before [b]My Father who is in heaven.[/b]

obviously there is an exception clause which was not written down.

The statement cannot be taken absolutely since Peter was forgiven.

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