demon-possessed?

despondent SG

hi there i am back again!!! another controversial topic for discussion...perhaps tis has been discussed b4 but i juz wanna see ur stand on tis. can christians be demon-possessed? christians r divided on tis issue...1 thing i noe though is tat the catholics believe tat christians can be demon-possessed...but 1st i muz stress tat demon-possession is nt the same as satanic oppression...so wads ur take on tis?

M©+square SG

Originally posted by despondent:
hi there i am back again!!! another controversial topic for discussion...perhaps tis has been discussed b4 but i juz wanna see ur stand on tis. [b]can christians be demon-possessed? christians r divided on tis issue...1 thing i noe though is tat the catholics believe tat christians can be demon-possessed...but 1st i muz stress tat demon-possession is nt the same as satanic oppression...so wads ur take on tis?[/b]

I think it will be better for you to differentiate on

1) Demon possession
and
2) Satanic possession

3) which point of view will you be looking at? The Catholic theology or Protestant Theology?

vince69 SG

first define what is "demon processed"?

lost control of oneself to one or more demon?
under the influence of one or more demon?
oppressed by one or more demon?

...etc

M©+square SG

The unker acts fast. Mr. Green

vince69 SG

no lah, you faster than me.. Very Happy

OCEANOS SG

Merry Meet Despondent,

Well anyone from any religions can be possessed, not only subjected to christians. Irregardless what religions, if your faith is weak, nothing can protect you. No point preaching if its not in your action that is not christian, buddhist or whatever religions.

Anyway this is just for sharing, need not any reply.

Blessed Be,
Oceanos

M©+square SG

I meant taking the definition to Demon Possession.

To me, this question is phrase 2.

Cos i am interested to find out what is thing called Satanic possession.
Threadstarter seemed to have a certain perspective on Satanic and demon possession. Must breakdown first.
Me still at phrase 1 Laughing

despondent SG

ok, i am more referring to those kind tat leads to addictions, depressions n bondages…u can call it being influence as well as being controlled by demons…i would take the definition of being controlled by demons…thanx…

despondent SG

however, i dun mean to say the person lost control of himself...i mean the person is under the control of tat particular demon in 1 particular area in his life...for eg. being demonised by a spirit of fornication...tis person stil leads a normal life but is very vulnerable to fornication due to the control of tat demon in him...

so the qn is can tis happen to a christian?

vince69 SG

*joke mode - on
personally, I don't think mr S.A.TAN will worry about us, small fry, he have enough big shots to worry about, most likely will just send one of his minor demon instead. Laughing
*joke mode - off

M©+square SG

Hmm...seems like you're not willing to respond in detail.

Ok to set the stage.

1) NOT all addictions, depressions and bondages are demonic influences and demonic inflictions.

2) A person controlled by demonic powers MIGHT have signs and symptoms of addiction/bondages on one subject in particular. Depressions and emotional/tempremental outburst, change of personality.

3) A christian being demon possesessed could possibly be because

In this case in specific, it is NOT classified under demon possession.

Meaning of 'Possession' is clear enough to stand on it's own.

However, when a Christian is always held in ways a particular pattern of acts which is considered sinful.
He have problem dealing with it. It is then his decision, a choice he need to make to renounce that HABIT.
In this case, i will take the phrase 1 approach and take that those are his secret Habits.

I would also consider Phrase 2 - which is Demon Harrassment/influence.
This is the external work of demonic powers.
Questions/suggestions and enticement will appear in front of a victim, and he will have to make the decision.

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The person may not be possessed unless it is evident that he have no control over himself.
- he will be classified under phrase 1 -2

A person who have no control over his body is
- Demonic oppressed
OR
- Demonic possessed

Cheers

davidche SG

the qn shld be how do you define christians.

After that, the solution is simple.

Lets say christians are ppl who believe in God and has God's actknowledgement.
Then christians wldnt get demon poccessed.

Chin Eng SG

why not... as long as the person allows himself to be possessed or oppressed.

davidche SG

if the person does that, is he still considered a christian??

So the problem lies with the definition of a christian.

Thanks You

maggot SG

How about me? Twisted Evil

When their minds have been weaken or exhausted

Touched physically by a "half-breed" which will leave a "mark" recognizable to the surrounding spirits which serves an entry point

Heard the name and shown the picture of the particular demon that is going to enter

Play ouija board or similar methods(Played once will left a "mark" too so enjoy that "mark" ) Twisted Evil

davidche SG

is someone who is a weapon of satan considered as satanic pocessed?

NT2 SG

amen.

Samuelpsw SG

actually each and everyone of us has demons in our body…but is just the level of purity and the level of faith that you have in God controls it..take for example…the spirit of failure, you will have thinkings that you are nt going to do this certain project and and you kip thinking that you will fail. There are many types of demons…they even have names like spirit of fear, spirit of lust etc etc…To be frank, even pastors or reverend have demons but is whether the willingness and how strong are you in God controls these demons…Rem even DEMONS tremble at name of Jesus!

the.owl SG

Chin Eng SG

I willS tryS toS answerS yourS questionS.

Quite theological - you are right - who is a Christian?

Someone who accepts Christ as his personal saviour - easy enough.

Does it mean, then, that this person is now no longer incapable of sin? No!

So if a person stumble and succumb to sin, does this person stop being a Christian? also No!

The question is WHY is a person demon possessed?

1. Is it because he wilfully continues to dabble with the occult?
2. Is it because he has no choice but to live in an occult-influenced environment?
3. Is it because his faith his weak, and his psyche is weaker?

So to answer your original question: it depends. Scenario 1, I'd say no, no Christian should dabble with the occult after his acceptance of Christ.
Scenario 2 is quite situational.... some converts are still financially dependent on other members of his family, so he cannot move out.
Scenario 3 probably can still be considered as Christian.

Having said all that, they are just my personal opinions.

Thanks yous.