american bishop believes homosexuality is not a sin

Icemoon SG

ok .. so who condemns people to eternal punishment?

casino_king SG

As I said, the LAW condemned already... for someone like you who is bent on condemning people, you will read condemnation in Jesus where there is none... I pity you. This is how condemnation works, you condemn others, you condemn yourself.

casino_king SG

What is this "eternal punishment" to you?

casino_king SG

You are the one who provided the John 5 and Matthew 25 verses Rolling Eyes

Icemoon SG

what law condemned already?

remember the context is the dead (like you said) .. and they will rise TO BE CONDEMNED.

you want to take grammer class? Laughing

Icemoon SG

so are you going to refute the pauline verse?

pls dun say list it and we have a look. Laughing

Icemoon SG

does it matter?

a punishment has to be administered. so who is the administrator? Laughing

casino_king SG

Please quote and mark in RED where it says... "TO BE CONDEMNED?"

Like I said, by insisting on LAW (see the context, Jesus healed the sick on a sabbath, which is a no no under the LAW) for salvation, they were already condemned. Jesus came to save all these condemned people... not to condemn them Rolling Eyes

"and now is" get it? Already dead.

casino_king SG

I asked you to list and you listed John and Matthew and now you accuse me of ignoring the Pauline verses that you did not include Rolling Eyes

casino_king SG

There is no need for administration... you are already dead... without spirit, you are dead. Once the conditions that kept your flesh alive are no longer there, your flesh dies too...

Icemoon SG

28"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29and come outthose who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned. 30By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. Laughing

by the way, there is no LAW saying you can't heal on the Sabbath. where . . show me?

breytonhartge SG

so you condemn others you also condemn yourself. so how can you be any different. there is no difference to the word condemn, does not matter what you "condemn"... so in this instance by saying that EHers cannot be born again, what are you doing? condemning... so you are condemned too.

Icemoon SG

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Laughing

you are screwed, I tell you. There is no way you can carry on this argument of yours.

put it this way .. Apostle Paul's reaction upon seeing the prostitute would be - "unless you repent, you will not inherit the kingdom of God".

breytonhartge SG

now look who is condemning? Laughing

casino_king SG

Icemoon SG

i'm waiting for your explanation of the phrase "to be condemned". Laughing

lalalalala ..

casino_king SG

Put it this way, anybody... not just the homo or prostitute... Paul would have said:

Unless you be born again, be born of spirit, you are already dead spiritually... it is matter of time that your temporal flesh goes too...

casino_king SG

Icemoon SG

na bei .. so the Apostle Paul really did condemn people! Laughing

u dun believe this is condemning?

you tell SIS "YOU ARE ALREADY DEAD SPIRITUALLY" .. see whether he KPKB or not?

casino_king SG

Condemn dead people? Mr. Green

Jesus came to save condemned people and did not come to condemn them. You can condemn people all you want... by condemning them, you condemn yourself.

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