what is the Gospel?

last SG · 2006-07-06T01:11:00+00:00

He who knows he was forgiven much, loved much; He who think he was forgiven little, loved litte.

Icemoon SG

what is the origin of this sinner's prayer?

I feel very wayang leh .. machiam like initiation rite liddat. Laughing

gasband SG

yeah that is very true....very very true...

in fact, the more you want to become a better christian, the more you want to read the bible, the more you worship, the more you want to reach out, the more Satan wants to disturb you becos you pose a big threat to him. We always joke in church saying that if your christian life has been peaceful thus far, repent becos Satan cannot be bothered about you at all. Laughing

Icemoon SG

By the fruits of salvation? Rolling Eyes

gasband SG

The sinner's prayer is just a general term. There is no standard or correct prayer. It is basically a prayer for a non christian to accept the salavtion and acknowledged Christ as his/her saviour and Lord.

gasband SG

They are many so called ways to differentiate but i guess there is no foolproof way and I guess the only way we will know is when we see God in heaven.

vince69 SG

I heard a simlar one before, it goes like this:
If satan is not bothering you, it may be because you are not bothering him also. Rolling Eyes

Icemoon SG

that's true. I think the evangelism booklet has one. Even NCC says it everytime they conduct the altar call. The strange thing is all the believers will say it too, I wonder why.

laurence82 SG

yeap, i was thinking more of along this line

i am more concerned about how one can abuse the position of being a 'professed' Christian especially when it comes to evangelising or like what icemoon is harping about, misusing the gospel for self interest

in anyway, I am more for Catholics' emphasis on work

i find the notion of faith vs work a silly one

you cant measure faith really, as gasband said, its a personal thing with god, so what other things you can do? i think its something the RCs have worked out

laurence82 SG

hmm

that was what exactly i told laoda during our outings!!!

Shocked

vince69 SG

then, the answer won't matter anymore. Smile

Icemoon SG

outings?? I thought you went to watch omen with him only ..

gasband SG

Seriously I think WORKS is very important in a christian life. James 1:22 tells us not to be just hearers of the word but be DOERS! And Christians who do not see the need to do good works should reflect on their christian life becos a christian who is truly filled with the Holy SPirit will naturally WANT to do good works!

The long standing issue between Protestants and RC is not whether WORKS are important but whether it is necessary for Salvation. That of cos is a totally different issue.

Again, I cannot emphasize more, WORKS are very important in a christian's walk with God.

laurence82 SG

sorry

no 's'

Mr. Green

gasband SG

yeah and thats why i rarely participate in certain discussions esp online becos there is no way to 100% say your point is right...only in heaven then u will know...and like you say, it doesnt matter any more...

gasband SG

so you more handsome or laoda more handsome?

Icemoon SG

I see it as a learning process of which there might be no outcome. Wink

Icemoon SG

lau is most eligible bachelor in class leh .. Laughing

gasband SG

yeah dun misunderstand that i am saying that participating in such discussions is not good.... Mr. Green

Its just not for me

laurence82 SG

deja vu!

its afterall, concerned with whether there is a afteralife or not

well, i am up for debates, not because i am concerned there is 'wrong' path to salvation, i am not a christian anyway, but because of the some trend of condemning unbelievers, heretics, cults, homosexuals etc to heck and hell

and seeing people trying to justify their silly actions or lapping it up on the miseries of others, makes me wanna take Lomotil for diarrhoea everytime i read the topics

vince69 SG

yes, I agree that good works are important in a christian's walk, but it neither adds to (or the lacks of it substract from) the salvation we received by the grace of God through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Like you said, good works are the result and not the means of receiving the grace of God. Smile

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