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Originally posted by casino_king:
Let me add one more to your Faith in God, having faith in
God does not means you can enter into the Kingdom of God, you must
have [b]the correct faith in God. In Roman4 (your
favorite, about Abraham's faith), Abraham believed in God, being
fully persuaded that God had power to do what he had promised, his
faith is credited to him as righteousness.
Orh, here is mine favorite statement (must have repeated it many
times already, its my statement of faith)
Faith in God is to believe whatever God promises, He can and will
deliver. It is to trust God who justifies the wicked, trust enough
to understand it is not by our works we received justifications and
salvation. It is believing Jesus was delivered over to death and
raised to life for our justification. Faith enough to believe that
when He love us and promised He will never leave us nor forsake us,
He really meant it.
What about good works? The idea and the motivation of behind doing
good work (be it charity, bible study, church going
etc) is
different from what is normally perceived and need to be put into
the correct perspective. We can do good works because of the grace
from God through Christ, even the desire and the ability to do good
works is from Him. Doing good works is a result and not a means,
just as not doing it wont change one status before God.
something to think about
Personal thoughts, God did not gave us freedom and ability so we
can sin, but we can do good works, God did not gave us knowledge
and gifts so we can tear others down, but rather they are given for
us to used to build each other up in Christ.
By the way every Christian have faith simply because God had said
He had given us a measure of faith, for a Christian to call another
without faith is almost like calling God a liar (and God is no
liar), the only thing is, little faith or great faith.
peace. 
btw, there is no competition here, so no need to have "winner"
kind, no prize anyway.[/b]
As for this part here: "Faith in God is to believe whatever God
promises, He can and will deliver. It is to trust God who justifies
the wicked, trust enough to understand it is not by our works we
received justifications and salvation. It is believing Jesus was
delivered over to death and raised to life for our justification.
Faith enough to believe that when He love us and promised He will
never leave us nor forsake us, He really meant it."
That is conditional Faith. You can never enter into the kingdom of
God if you come expecting, demanding even. I am not saying that
that paragraph is not true.
Of course every human being have a measure of faith, this is what
we start with to seek God.
Think about it. You must work out your own salvation. Hint, the
faith that you need to enter into God's Kingdom also comes from
God. What is Faith in God?
