Thank you for the comments dcx. Well, far from being offensive,
your replies do sound rational. My replies in red too.
quote:Originally posted by dcx:
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No offence, i see you say "God didn't say.....", a blunt remark i
would make would be "who says then"? All the remarks and beliefs
you've made, are what you believe in what the bible says and your
"Father" (not too sure how you address him in church) says...No one
force you to believe in the words of bible or your "Father"'s
words...You believe God exists (Many believers of many religions
believe so too..), so do i.
Nobody says - you enquired - i answered
to that query.
You believe God exists - Great. My apologies if i missed reading
that you believe in God. So, who is this God that you believed
? 
As for your "Example", you mentioned that God doesn't work that
way, another "blunt" question, how you know? No one knows. To me,
again, it's ownself of believing and "Ji Tuo" (hanging your
problems, worries, hopes, wishes, etc on a figure, whom believers
address him/her/it as "God"Wink.
As said, these things mentioned here are
personal according to my faith. So your question: "How you know?"
is already answered - "i know according to what i have
experienced." But of course, that is just me sharing here, am not
trying to sell you something.
>> Yes.... for many others like you, have prayed that she'll
get well n cured, so i do pray for her, but not praying that she'll
get well or cured becoz based on the condition she's in now and the
sufferings and pains she's enduring, a stage before terminal
illness, i hope your God will take her as soon as possible to end
her pains and sufferrings. Many of you have otherwise hopes and
thinkings compared to me. Many see me as a heartless or bo liao or
finding troubles in such threads, but then i really don't give a
damn...Anyway, back to it, i stand firm in hoping your God will
take her as soon as possible.
So be it. Your prayer is based on what
you believed as well. Good to stand firm anyways. Believing in God
needs that at times.
>> My thinking n belief on your brother's case: I believe
your God did the right thing by taking your brother away and to his
side. Like you've mentioned earlier,which your belief in your God
is such that your God don't work that way in which what your God
has done has not worked out to be what you all have been expecting
and hoping for.
What i was saying is that God blessed the
family more than we would hope to deserve. Whether God "did" the
right thing or not, not up to me to judge. It could have been self
willed, and God allow it to happen for good reasons.
>>For your info..360 degree turn makes one complete
round/turn and it'll be still left unchanged. It shld be either
90/180 degrees.
OK. if you insist. Thanks for the
correction.
>> Neither do i have insisted anyone to support or in mind
with me. Also, i do not need to have any experience or go thru what
you've gone thru in order to understand your
problems/worries/troubles/sadness/etc.
Did i say you need any experience to go
through ? Nope i didnt. I wonder where your comments are inspired
from. Perhaps you would like to share more on this
aspect.
>> Becoz they do not know or unsure of where they're coming
from (for some), that's why they questioned. Becoz some have been
over-protective of their beliefs and fellow siblings of the same
beliefs, and when someone will to question on your beliefs n
religion or to the event of going against their beliefs/religions,
some of your believers will get irritated/annoyed/buey song...and
will keep addressing, emphasizing to non-believers that their God
is true/real and tehy shld believe in it. Note: I mentioned "some
of your believers"....why i said so is becoz i've experienced and
encountered at least 80% of your believers in emphasizing to
believe in their God or religion and to join them. And i've made
very clear that i do believe in every God of all religions and i do
not see a need to join which religion.. I believe means i believe.
Everyone has a God in themselves.
Unsure of where they coming from - yes,
some questioned like you did, but some did not. Some just wish to
create chaos for their own pleasure. Thats my point. Your
experiences in your life, with so called 80% of the believers is
what so far i have seen as a rare phenomemon here, if any at all.
Taking something you experienced somewhere esle and accrue to here,
seems unfair. While i was a pre-believer, someone did also invite
me to church . The reaction is the same as many of course - "what ?
want me to join ar?" On hindsight, its just my own human defensive
assumptions. Asking one to go to church, does not equate to
insisting that you must join. An intention to share what they think
is good is still good intention. Similar to a situation when you
discovered a pool of water in a desert, and went 10 miles to inform
strangers to come share it. Beliving in this fellow or not, is
always up to you to decide. Although, of course, i am not denying
that there are some self professed Christians who did what is not
desirable.
