the true 'christians'

last SG · 2006-04-29T12:39:00+00:00

I did not say God did not do a good job, I am saying, the hearer may not be paying attention

Icemoon SG

both of you even more hiong than NT2. Laughing

breytonhartge SG

Truth is truth. Nothing to preach about or get excited about. I just tell it like it is. Cool

casino_king SG

This is not about "truths." It is about beliefs. I wonder why you people cannot make the distinction. To the cults, their teaching is the truth... to Pastor Prince and NCC they have the truth. To the Pope and the Roman Catholics they have the truth; to the Buddhists, they have the truth; to the Mormons and the Jehovah Witnesses, they have the truth....

The REALITY IS: These are just beliefs and baseless.

Believe anything you want, it doesn't matter.... whatever you are comfortable with; just understand that there is a better way and that is to face reality.

Repented John 2 SG

Laughing

Sorry for my "ruthlessness"!

Icemoon SG

And to Dan Brown .. he has the truth. Laughing

Chin Eng SG

There's no need to shout, Brey......

To you, the Roman Catholic church is heretic,

To other folks, NCC (and anyone who believes in health and wealth) is heretical.

You say you only quote from the Bible, so can I, brey.

There is not a single church in the world that is in stasis, some evolve to be heretical, others improve along Biblical lines. God's work is not done, so don't go around damning mainstream churches as heretical. That is just so impolite! Evil or Very Mad

I don't get it, brey, you obviously are into the back-to-the-Jewish tradition thing with your retorts, but yet your support with the health and wealth gospel of NCC and the festivities the NCC has (telecast on national TV on Christmas eve with Joe Prince single carols, mind you) is strong. This is so inconsistent.

Chin Eng SG

Nope, you're telling it as you see it.... It goes back to what I'd said to you: you are sure you are right and the others are wrong.

If you continue to claim that God is still revealing his plans to all, and different churches receive different revelations, who are you to say who's heretic and who's not? Just because someone or some groups did not agree with your own mindset of your understanding of the Bible?

breytonhartge SG

Did I ever say that I support Ps prince in full? Once ever? Get your facts right old man. Evil or Very Mad Does not mean that I defended him on one occasion, that I support all that he does. But in that instance, I think that the person attacking him got the facts wrong so I said something.

My calling mainstream churches heretical is no more impolite than the RC churches condemning all the other churches, or the mainstream churches condemning the charismatics and pentacostals... like you said once before, we all have views and we air them. Rolling Eyes An on the subject of impolite, you have done that routine on occasion.

So go ahead and quote from the bible, i thought that you don't do that.

BTW, I am not shouting at you. Just a certain person who is always incensed about ratings. Confused

breytonhartge SG

have you ever been part of the RC church? served in it? done the catechism? if so, then you should know what I speak about when I speak about the RC church.

If not, then I suggest that you go do some reading up of your own.

Nope, you got it wrong again. Like you yourself have said, all of us have our beliefs, we air them, so you don't like what I say, then you deal with it. The fact that the RC church is heretical is a well known one, and one that has been around for a long time, I have not spoken any different.

Well we have many others here calling the charismatic churches heretical, I don't see you making a song and dance about it? So why pick on me? Now you are being inconsistent. Evil or Very Mad

Honeybunz SG

And you think only you are not a heretic while the rest of us are? Rolling Eyes

SingaporeMacross SG

+1 !!!

Evil or Very Mad

SingaporeMacross SG

So according to your belief, Catholicism is unbiblical, tantamount to idolatry and therefore should be destroyed!

Go ahead, prove that the Church teaches salvation through human effort alone!

Honeybunz SG

Somehow I feel that Brey the moderator is trying to talk like a prophet or God’s messagers or something. He always thinks he has the right to judge and condemn sinners to hell.

Icemoon SG

I'm concerned about ratings just as mega-church pastors are concerned about membership size. Laughing

Even Repented John 2 agrees that numbers is [almost] everything. Numbers can even elevate a pastor to a prophet.

No wonder FireIce moderates the two highest rating forum in SGF. She can close and ban. The rest of us cannot.

PS: by the way, do come to my humble Forbidden City to help increase the rating. Crying or Very sad

Icemoon SG

I actually agree with Brey on this.

There is no evidence that he supports NCC in full. Brey just attends NCC while he is/was in Singapore, unlike vince who attends every Sunday.

I think Unker Eng was too quick to make that assumption. Well, people make mistakes when agitated. Very Happy

Icemoon SG

no wait .. I think you misunderstood Unker Eng. He was more troubled about your inconsistency and contradictory arguments.

While NT2 "condemn" the RC and laoda "condemn" the charismatics, there is a difference betweeen them and you.

Icemoon SG

Again, there is a difference. The mainstream churches "condemn" on the basis of Scripture. You do that too, but in addition you claim that the Spirit is still giving pastors revelation. This is an unlevel playing field liao. Mr. Green

LOL .. if he quotes, you should be honored. 'cos he won't quote for the sake of quoting. He only quotes when someone tries to perverse Scripture, like when Ah Heng tried to use Scripture to support homosexuality.

laoda99 SG

Yes....my stand is it does not come from holy communion.

Holy communion is to do in rememberance of Christ, as he has commanded. Anything more is extra biblical.

laoda99 SG

If the teachings abt wealth and health is correct, then all christians are rich and healthy, which is obviously not the case.

I am sick....but I am christian....and I am not rich.....

Do ur church not have sick and poor pple?

Repented John 2 SG

Yes, numbers can mean a lot. But we can never know the quality of these numbers.

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