My dear brothers and sisters, I must suggest that we do suspend
further discussion of this issue for the precise reason that for
many pages there has not been the kind of true exchange that one
expects of a true intellectual debate.
One-upmanship is pseudo intellectual, and it is apparent that a lot
of the points (by certain parties on certain sides) have been made
and held on by grounds other then reason. While none of us can
claim to be innocent of such behavior, it is apparent that
sometimes people just come here to flip tables, not sit down for a
cup of tea.
This is most unfortunate, because if secularism or atheism ought to
be what we are believing in, if it is the right way, then it seems
to be producing the kind of human that takes great pride in tearing
others down, calling them degrading names, and being self-exalted
in superiority. While I do not for a moment think that some (if not
many) religious people do not behave this way, I do know that any
serious person of faith knows better then to do such a thing. And it
is the kind of person that we should not be.
The question then remains, very well then if religion and faith was
nothing more then a money-spinning hoax giving false hope. Okay
them we are supposed to believe that we are nothing more then
animals who have no more rational basis to believe in our actions
and reason any more then that they were compelled by the chemical
reactions and whirling of atoms in our brain. Since we can be
convinced that this is far more likely, sensible and real.
So lets throw all ridiculous notions of faith out of the window and
embrace Godlessness with open arms. Let us believe that all the
good things we see in the world like love, music, children,
friends, sunsets are nothing more then claptrap, perceptions of a
feeble human intellect trying to define an existence that is
ultimately meaningless.
Let us embrace this new and sensible god, atheism, and believe that
we are just very intelligent animals who will have to make our own
fate. Since this is such a better alternative that gives us so much
more meaning.
After all, can anything
else possibly exist beyond this material universe filled with
unintelligent material that somehow got together to form patterns
of matter that could perceive the illusion of existence? Don't we
all know and claim this for sure (going by the conviction of some
statements of confidence in 'evidence)? Are we still not ultimately
bankrupt of meaning to begin with. Let us all believe this then,
and let us live as humans.
Haven't we all tried? What really came of it? Has years of casting
off faith led to a better, warmer, and more humane world? I do not
know. But I wonder how would men behave when they buy the notion
that we are all just random assemblies of matter and nothing more
then that, an intelligent animal with no meaning or motivation
except what the individual deems fit.
How would we behave?
What would we do?
Is it really better then, if I have no rational reason to believe
that my reasoning is rational since it is derived from a brain that
came about of irrational and random causes. Isn't reason an
illusion then? On what grounds do I believe what I believe in when
the evidence points that the very reason I use to determine the
universe and ontology is nothing more then just another derived
part of it itself? Do we have any reason to believe in our reason
then?
Have we really thought hard enough about atheism, or is it just too
plain simple? With many statements made by people who don't really
know what true science means?
I leave it to you.
