Originally posted by Ironside:
I would not enlist the prayers of the saints who have been promoted
to glory [the ones who died] for God said in His Word:
Ec 9:5 For the living know that they shall die; [b]but the dead know not
anything, neither have they any more a reward, for
the memory of them is forgotten.
Ec 9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might;
for there is
no work or device or knowledge or
wisdom in the
grave where you are going.
How can i therefore ask their intercessions for me if they cannot
even hear me here...............God says: they know nothing of
what's going on here.
The first century Christians [including the apostles] understood
those words. And so they never ask the dead saints to pray for
them. REad it in God's Word in the New Testament. No single soul
prayed to the dead saints to pray for them.
However, they enlisted the prayers of the living saints. Read
it.
Thanks
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Hmmm....let me c how should i put it. Wat i'm trying to say is
what's wrong with getting someone to intercede for us? Say for
example in the Catholic context where they say the "Hail
Mary"
it says " PRAY FOR US sinners now and at the hour of our
death"
another example :
"I confess to almighty God,
and to you,
my brothers and sisters,
that I have sinned through my own fault,
in my thoughts and in my words,
in what I have done,
and in what I have failed to do;
and I ask blessed Mary,
ever virgin,
all the angels and saints,
and you,
my brothers and sisters,
to pray for me to the Lord our God."
Mary is dead, the saints are dead so to say the Catholic doctrine
has been all wrong for centuries?[/b]
