Danger of the occult

last SG · 2006-01-16T16:37:31+00:00

I agree. HP spells are just play of English words. Also get me a phoenix feather or a unicorn hair, I will make a wand work....

Chin Eng SG

It's ok if you don't believe, but it is not written by romans.... jews will be more accurate.

Icemoon SG

erm .. chinese exist before any chinese historical records were written right? Laughing

pls lor .. your Huang2 Di4 and Shen2 Nong2 existed before their records were written many hundreds of years later.

ndmmxiaomayi SG

I have no intention of converting to a Christian after these bad experiences.

Repented John SG

I really apologise for what these fakes have done to you. But wont you give God another chance?

Repented John SG

There will certainly be opposition being a Christian. Later, in Ephesus, people got together in a riot & chased Paul away.

M©+square SG

Question

M©+square SG

Fundamentally wrong.

I give this a miss.

Twisted Evil

Cheers

Chin Eng SG

then why, Johnnie boy, do you bother to apologise....?

breytonhartge SG

It is not about whether the spells work or do not work in real life, it is about the spirit behind these things. The bible tells us that witchcraft and wizadry are definitely no nos... Mad

breytonhartge SG

don't look at man, look to GOD, speak to Him and ask Him to show you who He really is. I have and will always maintain, Christianity is a personal relationship with God, not the Church or the people in the Church. It is all about you and God, no one else.

breytonhartge SG

and why would that worry us believers? My Father in heaven owns the cattle on a thousand hills.... and all the earth and the universe.

The more worrying thing about the occult is that it takes souls away from heaven.

Icemoon SG

Sadly it is about the church and people also.

Your tithes go mainly to the church, which you may disapprove of. You think the money goes to God?

Icemoon SG

The bible talks about the real kind of witchcraft and wizardry bah? Maybe the kind the magicians of the Egyptian court practised against Moses? Laughing

And the awesome magic by Simon Magnus.

Chin Eng SG

In my opinion, you are right up to a point. Spirits are behind everything from, a fantasy novel to an advertising to enjoying life. Spirits entice you to try new things, either in the form of a movie or the desire to upgrade your car. Can you safely say that when we look at an advertising for the latest gadget or the newest condo is NOT a temptation from the spirit world?

Strictly speaking, we live in a world engulfed by spirits. The only escape is resurrection of the body. But when we are in this world, can we shun everything (like the Amish community)? If we can't, then the only way is to build a strong mental (as well as spiritual) fortitude to allow us to live (an in many ways, mix with) among non-Believers.

I guess the standard for shunning "witchcraft and wizardry" has to be firm, if your stand for HP is such (which I respect), then you stand for Chronicles of Narnia as well as LOTR should also be as such. Going beyond this, the same stand should be held for Snow White and Sleeping Beauty - the fact that these are Disney cartoon should play no part in the stand.

Also we must avoid Journey to the West or Feng Shen Bang (Transl: the ordaination of the gods). It is understood by the literary world the such Chinese classics are written as political satires.

Anyone having a strong stand on fantasy novels should also have a strong stand on a Robert Ludlum novel or a Agatha Christie mystery, afterall sorcery and witchcraft is not a greater sin than murder and mayhem.

Chin Eng SG

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Repented John SG

then why, Johnnie boy, do you bother to apologise....?

Bcos if i sound like i was religion bashing, which i am not, so I apologise for the tone.

klydeer SG

spells, goblins, harry, lonewolf ?..... perhaps all these are not so much dangerous than the "Cult of the Self" or "Pride".

ndmmxiaomayi SG

God is in our own heart, so it doesn't matter whether or not I give God another chance. I believe he will enlighten and guide me when I am lost. And it doesn't matter which one guides me. Be it Taoism gods or Christian god, they are there to guide and enlighten. Wink

It's not about chance, it's about bad impression. Being with these Christians made me see another side of them. Sad

ndmmxiaomayi SG

But man are the ones who are spreading the Gospel, as my Christian friend says. It is through man that you know about God.

My heart was initially opened to receive God. But these Christians made me close the door. I have no intention of opening it again.

As the saying goes, once bitten, twice shy. I won't allow the same mistake to be repeated to prevent myself from falling into other worlds which I will regret if I found out it is wrong.

Haven SG

It's not like that, It's because you have a unique way of interpreting your subjects.

Cheers

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