Unbelieving loved ones

last SG · 2005-12-24T11:26:24+00:00

of course, in xtian speak, we dont believe in christ mah

laoda99 SG

U sound like a new ager, similiar to the shady one who have the SAI BABA signature. U are definitely not a believer.

Chin Eng SG

I won't be too quick to make this statement.....

On MC's comment - not far from the truth:
There is no such thing as a ONE and Only Answer is Christian Living.
One God, unique People, many expression of Faith and worship.

Within the context of the Christian Church:
One God - One Jehovah,
Unique People - Within one country many denominations, in many countries, intra-denomination practices varies.
Many expression of faith and worship - some like Hillsongs, some like hymns, some speak in tongues, others pray with the heads bowed. Some jump up and down, others stand straight....

There is really nothing wrong in this statement.

Laurence, Laoda, MC... let's call this off, and agree to disagree. Afterall New Year's not too far away.

M©+square SG

Anything goes.

Laughing Whatever you believe i am, it will be.

laurence82 SG

Yeah rite, who is the one trying to bamboozle everyone here?

One moment you say debate not important, pursuit of knowledge here not important, the other moment you use this knowldge to label people as new ager, not a true believer in christ etc etc

Do you realise all the while you are already in this debate in which you are loising coz you are not making things fit, and that which you abhor?

Face it. Your so called faith is only use to bash non christians and lead everyone into confusion.

Already we pointed out the major contradictions in your posts. Please stop being in denial. Is this so much to ask?

laoda99 SG

Ironside is posting his personal opinions but they are always positive, becoz no matter what doubts he has at the end of the day he still believe that Christ as his redeemer. His stance is crystal clear and do not have ambiguity.

Yours is entirely different from him. U only see "Hell" from the bible and reject Christ flatly. U refuse to believe that u cannot be saved by knowledge.

Stick to this thread and do not deviate. If whatever brey has done and u feel offended, that is between u and him.

laoda99 SG

ok last post.

laurence82 SG

No i wont

This guy is leading us round and round, and then justify himself using his contraditory posts

If he think by tiring us and then can safely conclude non christians are here to troll, and everyone else is too tired to oppose him, he better think again.

laoda99 SG

I would say u and the ambiguous ones are trying to bamboozle everyone here. MCSQUARE is definitely not a believer in Christ. His sovereign god is definitely not Christ and he do not believe Christ as his redeemer.

I maintain that Christians did not bash Non-Christians in this thread. All I can see is non-christians who think they have better knowledge in the bible using these knowledge to attack Christians. Even Satan knows the scripture well, but for what purpose?

laurence82 SG

Then why cant you be positive too? You are not far from the mod of Youth Christians who only want certain thing to be said, certain things to be done.

Debates or the freedom to discuss, makes this forum different those like Youth Christians, like you, who only want certain things to be done to be said.

Gee

I have already spoken what i said abt this topic, now its your leading everyone in a dance that irks me.

laurence82 SG

All i can see are christians who are in total self denial, think they know everything so other opinions are void.

So anything that doesnt fit into your agenda is called bashing eh?

laoda99 SG

Positive abt what? To be fair to u, some of the things u said are positive but most make a mockery out of Christians.

Debates are okay, but if u want me to believe that there are other ways besides Christ, then I would say u stick to ur belief while I stick to mine.

M©+square SG

Now you become God.

Buay Tahan.....want to Laughing

laurence82 SG

Make mockery out of christians? oh, in your words, can i say i dont have the intention to, sorry if it offend you, but u can choose to ignore? duh

Now you say debates are ok

Is this debate abt saying you cannot believe in christ? the issue is, do yo uthink you know christ better than everyone else?

You can pooh pooh mc and icemoon away, but the way i see it, they are the one who know what they believe in, rather than walking down a path so blindly

M©+square SG

I have to agree with Lau on this.

Laoda. You're too sure of yourself. At times too over confident at what you are presenting which (seem to) make your answer the only vaild one in the forum.
There are times when a person should reflect. Balance it out.

Merely by saying men doesn't not have all answers, only God knows is a easy solution to hard questions.
Lau don't mind seeing that statement, but it's the haughty attitude you potrayed which irks him and me.

There have been consistent objectives on Lau's side, He questioned on Evangelism and Christian approach.
You think that he's bashing Christianity.
Be objective in your arguements, otherwise everything else will be bashing.

Regards

laoda99 SG

I apologize if I give u the feeling that I am over confident. But I state my beliefs clearly: I only believe Christ as the one who has redeemed me. I will stick to my beliefs while I respect the beliefs u have.

Men doesn't have all the answers. It is becoz God's wisdom is far above ours. As for Lau's questions on Evangelism and Christian approach, I would say I do not belong to the group which go tell him to go to hell. If he is offended by such Christians who ask him to go to hell, then I am really sorry he met such christians.

M©+square SG

I tell you what Lau thinks.

He also believes that you believe only in Christ the redeemer!

Heresay, you can say that you respect my beliefs...but i'm more than sure that you're not going to actually think that way. I've heard too much of lip service.

I understand that you are not the grp of black sheep.
Which is why i challenge you to vouch for all christians that evangelise with a pure intent. Because you posted like as if you're very sure of what you're saying.
Obviously, we know that there are definitely a huge portion who have their struggles in Evangelism.

Happy new Year anyway.

laoda99 SG

I have never say debates are not ok.

It is impossible for me to say that I know Christ better than everyone else. U know it too. But I can say I know him better than you.

I would rather walk down a path so "blindly" as u said than to believe in anything goes. If I believe in anything goes, I would not call myself a Christian. Mebbe I should believe in I-Kuan-Tao or some other cults.

Happy new yr!

laoda99 SG

U know I am unable to vouch for all Christians.

Happy New Year!

breytonhartge SG

I think the clearer thing is this, in the bible, Jesus Himself says, no one comes to the father except through Him. Jesus is the ONE and ONLY answer.

True ONE God, unique people, many expressions of Faith and worship, but only ONE SAVIOUR, ONE WAY to GOD, through JESUS CHRIST His son, by confessing, believing that JESUS died to save us from our sins and accepting God's grace of eternal salvation.

OrneryBoy SG

Amen Amen!!

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