Wise Men from East: Chinese?

last SG · 2005-12-04T10:36:52+00:00

mai play play .. lau good in history also.

Dr Who SG

Why I believe Wise Men who visited baby Jesus were Chinese :

1. Because they came from the East
2. Because tney were wise
3. Because it took them 2 years to reach Bethleham after the appearence of the star.

Why they can't be Arabs, Persians, indians etc:

1. These races were known to the Jews. Bible would have recorded that Arabs came. or Persians came......India traded with Solomon....also known race.

2. Chinese were supreme in Science/Technology in Han Dynasty.....hence the description : wise men

3. It took 2 years to reach Bethleham.......can't be Persia or India- too near., won't take more than 3 to 6 months to reach, even via slow walk

4. God has a plan for the Chinese- they were the first Gentiles to be introduced to the Saviour........and they will be the last........

a. "Paul was forbidden by the Spirit to preach in Asia"........time not ripe
b. "Glory will come in from the Eastern Gate. ' .....probably the Chinese will be called to deliver the Gospel back to the Jews in Jerusalem.

How this theory? Boleh-ka? Cannot-meh?

Anyway, Merry Christmas to all.........

laoda99 SG

A bit off topic here:

Just went to Orchard Rd see the lights: CK Tang got one decoration I think shows:

Even Wise Men need Jesus....

Mr. Green

Ito_^ SG

probably an argument to raise the chinese majority's self esteem of the church.

they wld probably say the same things if the majority were africans.

no_1_idiot SG

NO lah,no insult to africans dey have an low IQ accrording to certain surveys on e web

Dr Who SG

Africa is not EAST lah........ Wise men from east...........

And why bible called them WISE? .........I think because they very clever lah, got super calculator (abacus), got compass, got paper to write on, got astromonical charts, got gunpowder, got spectacles, got world map, got silk, ...........and probably science which baffle the Jews, Arabs, and Romans.......

Africans? sorry lah, not very wise......no great inventions.....only got super bodies....strong men, not wise men

fallin SG

Point 1-3 I have no comment. Asia in the Bible, I believe wasnt refering to Asia as a continent, rather it was refering to Asia Minor modern day Turkey I think. Secondly, have you read Heavenly Man by Brother Yun? The point you stated in 4b MIGHT be happening. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Ito_^ SG

i was using dat as an example to express my sarcasm.

laurence82 SG

Liu Bei, Guan Yu and Zhang Fei

progene SG

u forgot choc liang.........smelly X2........yue fei...wong fei hong....duan yu....qiao fung, xu zhu, murong fu, guo jing,yang guo, zhang wu ji......so many more.........

laurence82 SG

duiz

Must be from Han Dynasty..Guo Jing Wong Feihong are out

Han Dynasty started 200 years before christ, and ended 200 years after. It is considered one of the greatest period in Chinese history, that the Chinese call themselves people of Han.

M©+square SG

wah lauzzz....

haha....i'm bad at speculating....

progene SG

so e rest are in ah.... Rolling Eyes Razz

laurence82 SG

?

What speculation? Shocked

sillyme SG

I don't think Zhang Fei can be considered wise Razz

OK sorry to OT. Please continue discussion.

NT2 SG

hmmm chinese ah....then how to communicated with the Jews? haha

wonder did the wise men eat any camel meat not. Mr. Green

LazerLordz SG

Interesting, would love to see how this goes.

After all, China has a large underground community of Christians...hmm.

laurence82 SG

Tha depend on your definition of wise

In anyway, it cannot be, since Three Kingdoms era happened only 220 years after the death of christ

feelingblue SG

not peranakan meh? Rolling Eyes

Dr Who SG

Just saw on TV that Chinese and Japanese scholars observed and recorded the explosion in Crab Nebula in AD 1044............shows the high level of astronomical understanding amonst the peoples of the East.

AD 1044 : England was still ruled by myths and legends.......the Normans had yet to invade......Europe was in the dark ages..........US just populated by red Indians.....Belian and Saladin were slugging it out in Jerusalem........

So the sighting of the Star of the birth of the KING was a definate possibility.

But the question remains: why should any wise men from any country search out a new born king when kings were a dime a dozen? Somehow they knew this KING was special.......worthy of worship......they must underake the journey whatever the cost.........however far.......I believe Chinese records will one day be discovered and would reveal the journey of the Wise men towards the land of Israel......

laurence82 SG

So where were the proof that the three wise men were Chinese?

Secondly, since time immemorial, men been looking for the king, not a king. The question is..so what? What your post try to imply? I think you need to point out exactly what is going on here rather than lead the forumers in a whole lot of wooly guesswork and speculations.