Tithing and other questions

shade343 SG

If church followers are "coerce" into giving tithes.......

breytonhartge SG

That He does, but also know that not tithing is robbing from God, and that if anyone wants to redeem the tithe, he must add a fifth to it, ie 20%. FYI

eternal hope SG

Tithe can redeem? Rolling Eyes

bluewinged SG

20%???????????? Rolling Eyes

eternal hope SG

This seems to be unbiblical. Never heard before. Please quote the relevant verses to support your claim.

breytonhartge SG

Malachi 3:10

Malachi 3:6-9

Proverbs 3:9

1 Cor 10:26

Leviticus 27:30

Leviticus 27:31 And if a man wants to redeem (or keep) any of his tithe, he shall add a fifth (or 20%) to it.

Honeybunz SG

We should give only within our means.
It may be 10% or 20% only. The number shows small, but some of us may need 95% of our income to sustain, while others may need to give some to parents. Remember the commandment: Honour your parents. Giving to God or serving Him should not let us forget that.

happyharvest SG

The tithe was a requirement of the law in which all Israelites were give 10% of everything they earned and grew to the Tabernacle / Temple (Leviticus 27:30; Numbers 18:26; Deuteronomy 14:24; 2 Chronicles 31:5).

Now that we are under the new covenant, we are not bound by the law. Luke 22:20 says, "After supper, [Jesus] took another cup of wine and said, 'This wine is the token of God's new covenant to save you an agreement sealed with the blood I will pour out for you.'"

So I believe tithing is not compulsary and Christians should not feel obligated to always tithe. But we can use the 10% and 20% thingy as a guide to how much we want to give back to God. We should give as we are able, in keeping with our income.

Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver (2 Corinthians 9:7).

Regards

eternal hope SG

Oh, I heard that before but have forgotten becos I didn't understand what the add a fifth means. So now I know liao. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Thank You.

BTW, I thought this is for the people of Israel?

ben1xy SG

ooo this part is interesting. i'm curious abt this point.

by having a new covenant.. does it mean that the old covenant is no longer valid or binding?

happyharvest SG

Can you tell me what are the old covenant(s)?

Chin Eng SG

OT covenants included those with Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and David.
http://www.carm.org/doctrine/covenant.htm.

Chin Eng SG

Hebrews 8 and 9 is a good place to start.

happyharvest SG

So does that mean Jesus who came to fulfill the law has terminated the law. So we are no longer bounded by the law?

Chin Eng SG

the 10% tithe is not practiced universally. Some Methodist churches for example do not impose this 10%.

the idea is really to give back to God what He has richly bless us with, with the understanding that "God loves a cheerful giver".

Chin Eng SG

I'd prefer the word "supersede". There are some laws that are universally accepted even by non-believers and apply to human-kind in general eg "thou shall not commit murder".....

happyharvest SG

Love the God with all your heart and love your neighbours. These are the summing of the old testament laws.

shade343 SG

Why do you use the word "impose"??

Chin Eng SG

Impose - some churches keep emphasizing the need to calculate exactly what is 10% and make a church-goer feel guilty if the 10% criteria is not met.

Encourage - some churches will remind the church-goers that tithing is important and 10% is a good guide.

No rules - some churches pass the offering bag and one gives as he/she feels.

....beyond the Biblical teachings, one need to understand that this amount contributes to the operating income of the church.

shade343 SG

Hmm...I see.....Thanks...

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