Interesting talk btw Athiest Prof & Christian Student

last SG · 2005-08-06T20:53:45+00:00

Originally posted by Honeybunz: [b]An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of...

Icemoon SG

Dunno leh .. you want an authoritative stand on the issue .. I show you one liao but you don't accept what can I do?

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u're quoting me the authority which also sanctioned and encouraged the crusades? the same authority which conducted the witchhunts and trials? the authority which MUST be right all the time everytime, and which can make no mistake? so by THAT authority u're telling me that its right to see homosexuality as a sin?

Icemoon SG

I push this sai kang to the RC brethens ..

Maybe sgMacross can ans you. Or you want MrBach from CC to ans you? Mr. Green

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why push? because you can't answer ah? Laughing
no, answer me leh, the catholic church authority can make no mistakes is it? they confirm are 100% right all the time one har? just like it was right to kill pillage and plunder as long as it was "in the name of God" or just like it was right to burn people at the stake because they are "heathens" Laughing

orh so by that authority u want to say homosexuality is a sin, and that that is a majority view, then say it la. i mean, if u can go by that authority, i don't suppose any sort of logical reasoning will convince u otherwise would it?

no wonder hitler also had that sort of view on homosexuality. birds of a feather flock together! Laughing

SingaporeMacross SG

The Church is made up of sinners, no doubt.

The Church has committed plenty of atrocities, no doubt.

But let me ask you. If the Church teaches that 1+1=3, how can that be correct?

The Church has the teaching authority given by God himself. He said to the Apostles, "Amen, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Icemoon SG

wah leow .. you forcing me to be Catholic apologist? Shocked

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so then, according to what u said, if the Church teaches that 1+1=3, how can that be correct? but they have teaching authority given by God himself mah! so must be correct loh! Laughing

nvm its ok, u can think all u want that homosexuality is a sin. me, i prefer not to be part a group which includes Hitler, thanks.

ben1xy SG

u asked for a stance le...

arghz.. u r taking my answer out of context

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Laughing
u wanna base your argument on a premise, u better be prepared to argue it all the way to death.

but its ok. like i said, i prefer not to be part a group which includes Hitler, thanks.

SingaporeMacross SG

Let me finish my sentence. The teaching authority is only limited to matters on faith and morals. So if the Pope teaches that 1+1=3, then obviously he needs to take more classes in Math.

M©+square SG

When you're not. I suggest not trying.

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faith and morals? oh i guess its alright to kill in the name of god then. genocide in god's name is perfectly acceptable. they said its corrent didn't they? thats under morals isn't it? ah thank u for clearing that up. Laughing

Hooray! im so happy not to be in the same group of similiar thinking people which includes Hiter, that I don't mind being seen as "wrong"

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Laughing
smartest thing i've heard here all day. its funny when they shoot themselves in the foot to no avail. at least when i shoot myself in the foot, i make sure my foot is aimed squarely at them.

ben1xy SG

lol .. hitler was part of the human race ...

u wanna relinquish that too?

Icemoon SG

ok .. let me be Catholic apologist for once.

I ask you back - did the Pope direct the genocide on the non-christians? You said people's stand != Pope's stand. So it follows the Crusaders' actions may not be the Pope's intention?

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here btw icemoon, i've asked. here's the reply:

Friend: What authority christianity is supposed to be one's relationship with God. it's a personal thing. Therefore it's one's interpretation that is more important than what u r being told

Me: ah but then they will say that if its all up to the individual, then there is no guidance

Friend: They are the conservatives. Then again, those guys dont have to deal with homosexuals - sheltered in sg

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yea but hey the pope sanctioned it didn't he? sure as hell didn't hear him saying "no no u cannot do that!"

SingaporeMacross SG

If Christianity was merely meant only to be a personal thing, why did Jesus build his Church on Earth?

You see, a cross is made up of two pieces of wood. The vertical piece represents our relationship with God. And I agree with you in a way. A relationship with God should be the basis for believing.

But what about the horizontal piece? It represents our relation with others. We do not have to strive alone. We can journey together. It is not easy to be a believer, that is why we come together and learn from each other.

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Laughing

have u seen my multiply website? its called ASEXUAL ANTIHUMAN.

so ok, hitler and me are all part of the big group called homosapiens. but break it down into smaller groups, and u find that hitler goes in the same category as the vatican for their idealogy. oh yea, and the justifiable genocide bit too. Laughing

SingaporeMacross SG

Prove it.

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