Are Christians too liberal that we usually got bashed?

last SG · 2005-07-19T12:19:00+00:00

dear iveco and [email protected], please settle your arguments offline. this thread will be locked till mid-week.

laoda99 SG

As above. In my opinion, we are too divided and liberal that we usually got bashed for certain issues unfairly e.g. homosexual issues, birth-control, abortion etc . In Islam/Judaism, though also plagued by sectarianism, but their stand on such issues are firm and uncompromising. We only see gay priests and bishops in the news, and never a gay cleric or rabbi.

Should the church, like what the current pope says go back to the fundamentals, or shall we move with the times and continue to be liberal about such issues?

What is ur take?

Lingos SG

First of all.. the Christian church is not known to be liberal.
You might want to check the dictionary on the definition of liberal.

[email protected] SG

my opinion is that christians are too conservative and unliberal. As well as being rather hypocrital. thats why they get bashed. don't deny people's reasons for bashing christians. its just more escapism. no point u ask someone why they do something and they tell u why, and then u say "no actually the reason I think why u do this is yada yada..." if u do, u might as not well ask. Rolling Eyes

laoda99 SG

hmmm...my opinion is...what is liberal to u...may not be liberal to others... Embarassed

mach10 SG

lets just say, the word lukewarm exists…

Lingos SG

So... u wanna go back to the fundamentals.. ie. No electricity, no driving, no nothing???

iveco SG

Believe me, Buddhists are more liberal. They aren’t known to go to war over differences. What goes on in Thailand and Sri Lanka is more of a national security issue. Christians and muslims, however, have undertaken “holy” wars.

laoda99 SG

hmmm....think u r not aware of the sectarian rifts in other faiths also....

iveco SG

Well, as Earthlings pointed out, the Dalai Lama welcomes gays with open arms. The pope treats them as the spawn of the Devil.

laoda99 SG

Originally posted by iveco:

Well, as Earthlings pointed out, the Dalai Lama welcomes gays with open arms. The pope treats them as the [b]spawn of the Devil.[/b]

sweeping?

SingaporeMacross SG

Spawns of the devil? No such thing!

These people are struggling like everybody else.

laoda99 SG

Are christians too ‘nice’ and compromising that they are bashed? what if one day the pope decides to issue a ‘fatwa’ too on Dan Brown?

iveco SG

I doubt he'd do that. He is against capital punishment.

stellazio SG

we have come to such a modern age,it will be hard to go back to the fundamental strucutres.we should just carry on but not forget the fundamentals.

laoda99 SG

which is why i believe: it is not that the church got something to hide...but it just choose not to attack dan brown physically, as it will compromise christ's message of love...

a islamic fundamentalist will have no reservations fighting for his religion....even to the extend of killing someone condemned by a fatwa....

[email protected] SG

i believe thats slandering islam. EXTREMISTS have no reservations killing under the pretext of religion. true muslims are just as horrified with the murder of innocents as we are. christianity has had its fair share of extremists and extremism as well, one of the more recent examples being the catholic and protestant terrorists who fought each other in North Ireland. so this slander is much uncalled for.

M©+square SG

Actually i thought a more appropriate topic subject will be : Is Christianity the religion too liberal that we usually got bashed?

Cheers

elindra SG

Liberal? I believe the word you're looking for is fanatical. I'm ok with moderate Christians. They are nice people. The Christians that stain the name of Christianity are the ones who go aroudn declaring that the world goes to hell if they do not embrace Christ and they go around spreading atrocities of their own.

It's kinda like saying,"Hey accept Christ and you can live the life you want, be it rape or murder and you will still be saved. Doesn't matter what good you do now because as long as you don't accept Christ as your lord and savior, you're doomed in hell." Rolling Eyes

oxford mushroom SG

Yes, Christians have been too caught up with being politically correct that they have drifted far from the Scriptures. Trying hard to please the world, they have become so worldly that they have become salt that has lost its taste.

Christians should stand up for what they believe in. The teachings of Christ will arouse anger and opposition from the world. The Greek word for the church is to be 'called out' from the masses. If our teachings and beliefs are so pleasing to the world, there is no need to call us out from the world.

I say stick to the teachings in the Scriptures. As for the issue that was mentioned, ie. homosexuality...there is no question in my mind. The Bible condemns it and so Christianity does not condone it. Christians in positions of influence and authority (and there are quite a number in our society) must unite against any attempt to introduce an alternative gospel or a liberal version of christianity.

laoda99 SG

it is a matter of approach.

i too do not like being told that i am going to hell when i was a non-believer.

now that i am a believer, i am aware why some said tat....becoz without christ we can never escape eternal condemnation.