i did explain about the dangers of taking the Bible out of
context. would you compare Adolf Hitler to Julius Caesar? Different
times, different scenarios. And things would be done very
differently. For example, in Exodus, the LORD God made Isaac's wife
appear before Abraham's servant as a lady drawing water out of a
well. It might form the bedrock for today's romantic relationships
where we may believe that God has chosen a partner to complement
us. But does that mean we need to go scoping for every lady near a
well? Here, you are referring to the book of Deutronomy. If you
were to look at the NT with a fresh perspective, you might notice
Jesus Christ did no such things? Who came later? Jesus. At a
different time. Because times had changed.
So the bible has an expiry date ? It is only relevant from year
1 to 2000, then it need another revision ? As said before even
Jesus say tat every word of the OT remains relevant after him. and
it will remain relevant forever
Matthew 5:18
'In truth I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even
the smallest stroke of a letter will pass away from the Law.'I tell
you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest
letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear
from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks
one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the
same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever
practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the
kingdom of heaven
Jesus did no such things, but he say tat the laws is still valid.
They r at different times but jesus say tat it is forever. So why
isn't the book of detronomy valid ?
why refer to OT? OT is irrelevant because Jesus did not exist
then. Not joking here. For example, consider our laws? During the
time of the British, there were many laws regarding the usage of
horses (obviously no motorcars then). All these laws no longer
exist. Would you say we reinstate them and make them applicable to
all recreational horses (i.e. the ones at the Turf Club)? hope u
get to see my idea here. Even during the OT times, the priests
can't even harm Jesus. Why? Thou shalt not murder were one of the
commandments Moses brougt down!
Frankly, if there is no OT, Jesus can be consider as a lier
since it is the OT tat says a messiah will appears. Even jesus says
tat OT is relevant. Thou shall not murder, but in the OT there r a
lot of death penalties such as stoning women.
Err, if you dun acknowledge God exists. Your soul go to a place
where there is no God. I would not bother describing that place for
I have acknowledged Him, and that knowledge would be irrelevant.
The place is described in the Bible anyway... i think its called
limbo according to catechism. Its a place where there is an absence
of God.
I thought limbo is for un-baptise children tat die ? BTW limbo
isn't suppose to be much better than hell 
If you do acknowlegde God exists... you have a heavy
responsibility already for you are expected to live a life worthy
of Him for when you come before Him, you will be judged. By not who
you are. But of your faith. A lackluster faith leads to impurity in
the heart. For Jesus warned that there were some He would not
acknowledge despite their proclaimations of faith.
actually why don't u ask yourself whether does it make sense to
judge people by faith and not by actions. I mean he dissappear,
hide in such a way tat u can not have concrete reasons to believe
in him and then punish u for not beliving in it ?
And i think u misunderstood me. If the person does not
acknowledge God, God does not exist to his knowledge, his/her soul
will take up permanent residence in Limbo (IIRC). If a person
acknowledges God, he/she will be weighed. He/she will have to
undergo the fires of purgatory where his past deeds will be held
accountable. Its a test of the purity of faith. What's good of a
faith based on lip service? God is fair. I believe stongly, though
a murderer may reach Heaven's door, if he's not truly repentant, he
will be punished severely. Even if he's repentant, he need to make
good the misdeeds he did.
where do u read tat non-believers go to limbo ?
God is perfect! God never changes! But we do! Our world changes!
Our status quo keeps changing! Thats why Heaven is paradise because
there is true happiness and its constant! I mean during Moses'
time, a burning bush would be considered something miraculous...
but that effect would be lost on us today? Even so, our hazy skies
would hide the star that led the 3 wise men to a lowly manger one
clear night? Its us who change. God accomodates us by making His
laws all the more clear to us for us to understand His laws in out
current culture and timeframe better
The OT say tat its teaching is timeless. The NT say tat OT is
still relevant. Then u tell me tat times have changed and god have
to keep up with the changes. Then isn't tat rebuking the whole
bible ?
err what facts did i omit? everyone DURING and AFTER Jesus'
time, MUST believe in Jesus to be saved. For He paid the ultimate
price.... to die for our sins. There is a distinction made between
unbelievers and people who have not heard of Jesus Christ.
unbelievers are those who do have a choice to believe in Jesus
Christ! but they intentionally refuse it. those people who are
unaware of Jesus like people in remote areas... God did send
missionaries to spread His word. He cared! However the Bible does
not mention about those who unfortuately do not hear the word of
the LORD... thats for the missionaries and we Christians to answer
to God
And wat happen to the people before jesus ? Why do the people
who had heard of jesus yet do not believe in him had to go to hell
? Wat happen to the people who had not heard of jesus ?
Unfortunate. But does it mean they'll go to Hell? But if you are
holding the Bible.... would a section on what would happen to those
who do not hear the Bible be irrelevant?
wat happen to them ? Sorry I don't really get u
I don't think ntu_slacker is saying that the OT is irrelevant. I
think the issue is to respond to another writer's regular reference
to OT's law. In that sense, it is irrelevant because the laws in
the OT is no longer relevant to us in a practical sense.
why is the OT not relevant in a practical sense when the bible
says it is ?
And IMHO, most of the things in the OT ARE now made irrelevant
by the arrival of Jesus Christ. And Jesus did not just do away the
OT, He brought it out of mothballs and breathed new Life into God's
Word. The Bible was no longer God-inspired or records of the saints
of old (some may argue Abaraham, Moses etc arent saints but u get
the idea)... but a real life account of the life of the people
living with the Son of God.
As said before, jesus say tat the old laws of OT r relevant.
Every stroke of it is approved by him himself.
