Praying in tongue

Chin Eng SG

actually there are lots of verses that talk about tongues, starting from Acts.

[email protected] SG

now it's a zealot for anti-religion!
*points and laughs again*

big hairy V8s too eh? monaro is a good car.

plo30360 SG

Just my two cents worth here;

As I mentioned somewhere before, the true gift of tongues is the ability to speak in your native langague and the people around you understand as if you were speaking in their native langague.

To, illustrate this point, let us assume, we have a speaker who speaks English but his audience comprises of people who speak German,Urdu,Swali and perhaps Latin. If, he truly had the gift of tongues they all would be able to understand him.

Regarding the gift of tongues to 'Angelic langagues' , the same holds true.

fandango SG

I wonder what bible you are using.

fandango SG

Agree with you. But dun really understand your stand with regards to 'Angelic Tongues'. Care to explain ur conviction?

plo30360 SG

I think in my last statement, I did not check how the meaning would turn out.

Ok, let me try explaining this, in the bible, it is mentioned that when the Holy Spirit decended on the disciples and gave them the gift of tongues,

they spoke in their own native langague but the people around them could understand.

They did not learn any new langagues. Unfortunatley, a lot of people who claim to speak in tongues, learn 'new langagues'(Angelic lanagues).

I want to emphazie that the true gift of tongues is not being blessed to speak langagues unknown to you or your audience, but rather it takes the langague you use to comunicate.

SilverRevo SG

If God is part of the world , God should be helping to improve the situation instead of watching .. If God is not part of our mortal world , in that case the only saviours would be ourselves to ourselves only ..

Commence anecdote .. what if the world is a school , and God is the principal withour being seen or heara , yet thru the pupil's handbook (Bible) it states his existence .. the students believe .. then the students believe he has a greater purpose for them , and follows all rules in the handbook. Teachers are like pastors or sorts , preaching to the kids expecting to do their work and have faith in the ommipotent... the students are given free will and after their graduations (death) , they go to the office which is unreachable mortally yet opened to graduates .... if the students were bad , didn't follow the rules , didn't believed in the Principal's existence .. they are expected not to live eternally in the office with him ..

Of course God and principals can't be compared , why is God letting us question all about his existence? He doesn't give a definite impression , is he a definite being then ?

By being sheeps under the shepherd , would we get a answer of our purpose ? the answer is conviently denied while we are alive and so , the only way to know is death ?

All we do is to wait for a second coming? who would be influential enough to spread the new truth ? There is only one god yet practised as a trinity .. this shows the confusion caused by Jesus when he appeared on religion scope .. some Jews followed his teachings .. why did the rest didn't follow? which is the definite religion then ? whose the saviour in truth ?

If people don't know medicine , a doctor cured a patient .. would he be revered as a miracle saviour? Ignorant people might believed .. for example the Incas/Aztecs central american cultures .. they believed their god (quezalcoatl) would return one day ... the spaniards came with technology not understanded by them and thus thought upon as their gods .. their race was eventually manipulated to disappearance.

With so much confusion , what definite answer do we believe in?[/list][/list][/quote]

stupidissmart SG

It is something like Wizard of OZ... There is no wizard of Oz, it is only a human acting as one. He used illusion and trickery to show tat the Wizard is powerful and lie to other people showing how powerful he is but in actual fact he is a fraud. People believe in the Wizard of Oz, but it doesn't exists. He is good at illusion and bad at everything else.

Maybe tat is the same to "god" too. Tat is why he came out with all these funny rules like

not appearing in front of people,

not being tested,

not granting any special signs to the believer,

accusing people who question him,

seeking only to believe by faith and not by logic,

punishing all those who do not believe in him,

promising something good to the believer which cannot be verified

and hiding the fact after death so well

Just think for a moment, if u r a fraud and want to "create god" to the people, aren't these the rules u will adopt in order for the fraud not to fall through and carry on over the years ? If u r a real "god", why hide yourself now when u have shown yourself so frequently in the past ? Aren't the tell-tale signs already apparent such as error in his stories and contradiction with itself ?

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