is it possible for non-christians to be with christians?

laurence82 SG

Whatever advice given, couples should always sort out the matter carefully and by themselves. Talk it over...

both may end up be happy christians, both happy non christians, or they are just happy with what each other is..

Sigh, sg divorce rate on the increase..this sorta thing requires a lot of understanding..

SingaporeMacross SG

Kind of ironic isn't it? Considering Christianity discourages (or may I say forbids) divorce.

laurence82 SG

For Catholic, yes i am sure.

I am not sure for Protestants.

Honeybunz SG

I think it should be both ways.

The non Christian has to be prepared to embrace Christ one day while the Christian must not force it on the non Christian partner. Forcing will cost the non believer to be more resistent to the religion.

Never say "If you love me, you should convert to Christianity". That will be very selfish and does not demonstrate Christ's love. What if the other person turns around and says "If you love me, you should renounce your religion"

Instead we should display Christ's patience and generosity by letting the person know that you are giving him/her time to be ready (to convert to Christian). I'm sure he/she will appreciate your understanding and be more receptive to Christ eventually.

InnoHippo SG

this expectation that non-Christian will eventually convert is also quite tricky .....

it like assuming Christian partner will eventually renounce faith for love Confused

Honeybunz SG

I guess giving the non Christian ample time will make things a lot easier. At least, the non Christian won't feel the pressure. But of course, the time has to be indefinite. The Christian cannot set a target and say "I am giving you XX year's time to convert...." Instead, he/she should say, "Only when you're ready..."

nove SG

my bf is a strict roman catholic
and he found out that it is possible for his wife to be of a different religion
but there must be some criterias

mmm honestly i cant remember what they are
but if even i can meet these criterias...

ok i think u need to believe that there is a god
erm no aethist i think

and i know that my children have to be baptised and they're gonna get to be catholic until during their confirmation they can choose whatever they wish to be

nove SG

oh yeah hmm and i think one of those pre marriage counselling/meeting with the priest is "Required"

of course u can dont go lah
but u know sometimes between two persons
its all the compromise that is important

i mean i told him right in the beginning, i'll never convert. i'll die before i convert
but im ok with my children being catholic Razz
so there voila! compromise

Honeybunz SG

It’s true that Catholics can marry non Catholics. But both have to see the priest. And then the couple have to go for the Marriage Preparation Course or Engaged Encounter retreat where they learn about married life. So far, all the couple who are ready to get married benefit from the courses.

nove SG

NeonTetra SG

what the Bible forewarned and if people continue to carry on their own way..is called sin. excuses like 'its my freedom'....'i dun see there's much harm in this' seems reasonable...to me as well. But in the true essence of being a Christian...not a signboard version..is to deny yourself, pick up the cross and follow Christ. If you cannot do that....then my harsh reply to all of you is...dun pretend and deceive yourself......dun call yourself a christian.

As harsh as it seems...i bear absolute no apology for saying that for that is the expectation and requirement Christ gave to the people during His days when they want to follow Him. The apostles and early disciples did....what makes us feel that we can be some cosy happy go lucky Christian who takes the Bible as a secondary consideration and our self interests as primary?

I shall not carry on to re-explain why and why not 'unequally yoked' relationships r not allowed and to re-emphasise that Divorcing your non-believer partner is never taught in the Bible. at all.

What God forewarned and if men continue to walk in that very path He forbid, the rest of the consequences that befall upon u....dun u dare look up to heaven and blame God.

Rather..look into the mirror.

laurence82 SG

i wait for SIS to come in... Cool

NeonTetra SG

SIS dun and unable to change biblical standards.

laurence82 SG

Laughing

SingaporeMacross SG

Tell me NeonTetra, do other churches allow divorce? I’m assuming they don’t?

greengoblin SG

Go out, know more people first... hang out with your church mates after service, get to know them better. IF a non-chrisitian seems attractive now, it could be that your social circles in church aren't wide enough.

PErhaps some key questions to ask yourself before you get into a relationship
1. Do I really love the person or my dick just wants to penetrate her {lust}
2. Will this relationship lead to marriage...if so what consequences does such a pairing bear in the future?

Remember, if you get married, it is not just about two of you but your entire dynasty to come. You better pray and seek God's advice before proceeding on. IF you let your dick to rule your heart, then good luck man.... when your wife becomes old and shaggy and issues like money come in...if both parties do not have God as a foundation, the ride is going to be very rough.

I leave you with these verses
Luke 12 : 29 - 31

Pray and meditate about it. Let God lead you to the right one.

NeonTetra SG

again...we cannot enforce say die die cannot divorce. Reading Old and New Testaments..we do encounter instances whereby Moses allow people to issue certificate of divorce..but tt is not an anyhow affair....it is the result of an adulterous spouse.

Jesus in His reply to the scribes explain why God thru Moses allow separation...because of human sin. What God has joined together, let not men made asunder.

The Bible do not promote divorce and infact has given instructions after instructions regarding maintining a godly marriage, not defiling the marriage bed, not coveting other people's wives and not commiting extra-marital affairs, loving husbands and wives and honour them. Love them as ourselves.

Chuches do allow divorces only under severe circumstances such as physical/sexual abuse and many other matters i am not in the position to list out.

Smile

Prevention is better than cure.

wisely_xu SG

hi, im wisely, mod of a new religion fourm - http://taoism.sgforums.com

hope we all can learn and share useful thoughts and ideas together. we believe in mutual learning and sharing.

heavenly blessings.

777 SG

I will like to put in a simple example ..

If I enjoy going to church, cellgroups, serving God in ministries, helping the less fortunate, reading bible, discussing about God, praying etc etc ..

And if I married someone who does not enjoy most if not all the above.

Then practically, I can only compromise by doing less of what I enjoy so as to spend more time with her, doing things she enjoy.

In conclusion, if my belief is only a preference, I will find nothing very wrong that. I can prefer chocolate ice cream to vanilla, but if no chocolate .. aiya .. vanilla also can la!

If its a conviction, I may find myself in an extremely difficult position.

In the end of the day, its up to us!

If God is a pigment in our imagination, then we might as well do whatever we desire!

If He is real .. we had better make a wiser choice Smile

Compromising, in this instance, is not wise.

stupidissmart SG

Obviously from the look of the responses, u can say tat it is not possible for christian and non christian to be together. From some people here, they r just waiting for a chance to convert u to be christians.

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