I am back.. for a day and a moment...
Like the example of PAUL I quote, he was persecuting christians
and killing them. He must have heard many good things that Jesus
had done, but yet he went on killing them. If he had committed the
unpardonable sin by persisting on killing them even though he had
heard of the truth, would God appear to him in Damascus and saved
him? He was saved, as we knew, and thus the 'unpardonable sin' was
in context to the pharisees because they did not sin against the
Son of Man but sin against the SPIRIT because they credited the
power to the DEVIL. A person who says "Hey, Jesus could not perform
those miracles as He was just a mere man." (a failure to recognise
Jesus for who He is) is different from saying "Ah this miracle that
this Jesus perform can only be done with the power from the evil
spirits."
Frankly speaking, if some hindus come out and perform miracles
after miracles and tell people to believe in hinduism, my judgement
is christian will come out and say it is the work of the devil too.
Tis is especially too since in the OT, it had already warned the
people of false prophets who may be disguised as a devil.
the unpardonable sin is not merel saying unkind things against
the HS, the religious leaders involved had turned totally against
the revelation of God, they were so far into their own wickedness
that they rejected not only Jesus Christ, but also the HS. they
were saying that good was evil and evil was good. they called the
Spirit of God, satan.
They can also be just being too caution since from the bible the
devil is good at deceiving people. If u ask me, if someone do not
believe in your claims, it is more noble to convince him more
rather get get angry over it and curse him to hell.
even non believers will acknowledge the power and touch of the
Holy Spirit when they encounter Him. so its not really easy to
commit this sin i think.
Tis is talk cock to the extreme. If they r true non believer,
then they will not acknowledge the power nor touch of the holy
spirit. If they do they r not really non believers after all
if anyone today has committed this sin, it would be someone who
is hard-hearted, who has turned against Jesus, reviled Him and
become so depraved that he would claim that God's spirit is
satan
How do u know it is not the devil's work instead ? U r more
smarter than the devil ? Just because anyone claims he is god and u
just believe in it ?
yea! you know tang kee (chinese mediums) acknowledge the power
of the Holy Spirit? they can't perform their arts while a christian
is in the midst? my dad's cluster leader is a testimony.
There r a lot of problem with the above statement.
First, u probably have a clash of belief since u do believe tang
kee has some divinity in it. IMO, I think tang kee is a fake and he
can perform his act without any real restriction.
Second, u feel tat the power of chrstainity is more powerful than
the power of taoism deities ! Tat is indeed a bit slanderous to the
other religion. If a taoist says tat holy spirit or god do not dare
to face an idol of monky god, how will u feel ? If someone says tat
speaking in tongue etc cannot work in a temple because your god
acknowledge the power of some deities wat do u think it implied
?
Lastly, the example u had given doesn't seems to be accurate or
prove anything. Personally I got hear of christian friends
attending a session of tang kee themselves. Can u tell me tat all
the christian never experience or see such things before ?
I dun think Dumbdumb is making stupid references. He is just
talking about his father's friend. Its not what he said. Its what
his father's friend said. Unless you are sure his father's friend
is telling a lie or a loony, then i dun think you can say its a
stupid reference.
Just because a father friend say something doesn't means the
content cannot be attacked. Who cares who tell him this story ? As
long as he is the one who write it down here, he deserves to be
responsible for his words. It really do make stupid references
since tang kee doesn't meant non-believers. In fact most non
believers do not believe in tang kee as well. It may also meant tat
particular tang kee is just having a bad experience with a
christian during a session before.
i'm pointing out that even non believers acknowledges the power
of the Holy Spirit. they really don't touch baptised christians. if
you (a christian) go to a tang kee. and tells them u're a
christian. they will ask you if you are baptised. if you say you
are, they ask you to leave, and say they cannot do anything for
you. its true
Trust me, I don't believe a word of it. And frankly, it again
illustrate the point tat u feel christianity is in a sense more
powerful than other religion and it indeed is a inflammatory
message.
exactly. its a grey area. which makes it hard to say who is
right and who is wrong. i don't feel you are wrong, neither do i
feel what i said was wrong. if i say that science has proven that
earth is not million of years old, which has already been proven,
all the scientists would come and say that i am putting them and
their research down, and i'm insulting their work. so am i right or
am i wrong when i speak this truth?
The problem is wat u had said is wrong in his and in my opinion.
If science had proven tat the earth is billions of yeras old, and u
come out and said they r wrong and came out with a ridiculous
example belittling their research work, they r gonna tear u dwn as
well
