off topic.?.no we are still "pointing" the same thing but
"walking" in parallel. Read carefully what I wrote the prev post on
the good the bad one...I couldn't completely comprehend what God's
thinking for His wisdom is like a dessert, mine a grain of
sand.
When I'm in doubt, I pray to Him for an answer. Plonk! He answered
straight away.
U r still off topic. I am talking about heaven and u r still
talking about who go into heaven
Please elaborate
U cannot comprehend god's thinking, then how do u know he is not
lying to u ? Why don't u ask him the questions I have asked and see
if there r any answers ?
Right now, in changi prison, there are ppl who are sentenced to
death, leaving their loved ones..the unbearable pain of separation
is one of the punishments...what abt those with young kids who need
support and the permanent treatment they wld get from other ppl? If
you dun get it, ur loved ones will get it. Nt forgetting the
ultimate punishment when the death sentence is fixed...knowing
there's no second chance to change anymore. Yes, they confess their
sins to God. God forgives them, but look what punishments they
get?
HUH !!?!? The unbearable pain of seperation (death) is done by
god just because adam eat a fruit bah... SO wat about those
childrens who need support ? U r still out of point as we r talking
about the conditions of heaven. U tell me tis and tat, but isn't
all of these out of point ? U tell me there r people on death
sentence ?? SO ? Wat has tat got to do with heaven condition ? U
tell me they live children behind, SO ? Wat has tat got to do with
living conditions in heavan ? U tell me they confess their sins to
god, SO ? Wat has tat got to do with living conditions in heaven ?
R u going to tell me tat we should forgive every criminals just
because they confess their sins ? Is tat fair to the victim of his
crimes ? IF "sorry" is a solution, then we wouldn't need
policemen
how sure are you? Have u made a trip to heaven? You're making
another prophecy here again. Does God have to follow what u
imagined it to be?
Yes, who wun feel angry or sad when being hurled insults at? To me,
God is always around me and He can heal my hurt which I think is
impossible to heal.
True, I have never been to heaven. But the point I am trying to
drive is SO DOES U. Why do u think heaven will be milk and honey ?
If anyone who just believe in christ get to be in, then wouldn't
tat make heaven the same as earth ?
God is around u always ? I thought I heard tat wording by taoists,
hindu etc too. I think u should give yourself more credit when u
have recover from your hurt
God does nt punish u for things u r nt responsible. Life is
unfair nt because God is unfair but you are unfair to yourself. I
used to think the same way as u. Saying why God is so unfair....why
there's pain and suffering...I didn't eat the fruit what...but He
saved me and took away my pain. I'm happier and stronger than ever
now.
Am I responsible for eating the fruit of wisdom ? Adam ate it
but not me isn't it ? Why am I suffering for his mistake ? U still
have not answer why does god have to sacrifice his son for himself
for him to forgive us when he can just directly forgive ? If he
really forgives us, then he should have forgive the sin done by
Adam (punishment for eating fruit is
To the woman he said,
"I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing;
with pain you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you."
To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from
the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of
it,'
"Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat of it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return."
)
In short, pregnancy pains, work and death. If god forgives man, he
should have relieve us of these punishments isn't it ? But clearly
he did not since we still have pregnancy pains, we still had to
work and we still have to die.
I didn't know that beside Adam and Eve, there are other people
around when Adam and Eve started the original sin.
26 Then God said, "Let us make
man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish
of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all
the earth, [2] and over all the creatures that move along the
ground."
27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in
number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea
and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves
on the ground."
Tat is in genesis 1, on the 6th day men and women r already on the
earth. It is after tat in genesis 2 then he start to create adam
and eve. Before adam and eve, there r already men and women. As
least tat was claimed by some christians here before.
How Heaven look like, it is still heaven....maybe its sound like
America to you, but that doesn't mean that it is America. You
resist gold & jewels?
No, but it doesn't say tat the people there will suddenly become
perfect but remains as wat they normally r. Hence heaven in the end
will still become like earth since the people there r still very
much the same. Gold and jewels ? Wat is the point of having them
when there r too much of them around ?
