PES E9: Type 2 Diabetes. To Up PES, Specialist Memo Certify?

Sky22141 SG

i was graded Pes E9L9 due to type 2 Diabetes. I want to work at security line after ORD, Will my current Pes Affect me? And if i want to Up Pes first day of enlistment request to see MO or wait going ORD then look for MO? first day of enlistment can see MO?? or must wait after BMT?

eac SG

Yes, you will definitely need to get the latest updated hospital specialist memo/ report to certify.

The reason being, if the camp MO just anyhow upgrade your PES without any support documents and should anything happens to you, he will get charged for negligence by HQ Medical Corps/ faced disciplinary actions by Singapore Medical Council and may even be suspended/ lost his doctor's practising licence. Will he ever risk that?

Please submit the hospital specialist memo to the camp doctor to assess and process.

As usual, please refer to this guideline:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/392446

Rednano SG

reference to this case study:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/451185

tarutaru SG

Btw I think security line also need certain level of fitness. Regardless you E or not, diabetes problem.......very likely not.

Rednano SG

Btw I think security line also need certain level of fitness. Regardless you E or not, diabetes problem.......very likely not.

he have forgotten that after he ORD, to apply for jobs before he start work, there will be job application form to fill in for declaration and there is also a pre-employment medical checkup just before/ immediately after he sign a working employment contract too.

Sky22141 SG

Btw I think security line also need certain level of fitness. Regardless you E or not, diabetes problem.......very likely not.

your fit as in physically fit or medically fit? cuz the security requirements page didnt say need medically fit.

Sky22141 SG

wapiang? in USA diabetics can join SWAT in SG diabetic not even a security officer?? ... got kiasu until like that mah??

tarutaru SG

your fit as in physically fit or medically fit? cuz the security requirements page didnt say need medically fit.

Physically fit is one thing, medically is another. Most of the time, security required medically. In US diabetic joining SWAT maybe case to case basis maybe that one not so serious type. Do you need insulin everyday?

Lokey SG

You need to be medically fit to be a security guard.

Imagine that you forget to eat beakfast one day (cose there is no time), you will faint. Or you are forced to take two shifts, the body also cannot take it. If you eat too sugary food, you will also faint. The blood sugar level goes up and down like a roller coaster.

It is best for you to do an administration job, with regular meals and standard working hours.

alize SG

Most importantly, you may work alone at night. If you faint no one will be there to save you.

Thereore you will be excused gard duty in NS! :) If you aren't, ask for it!

Sky22141 SG

im not insulin-dependant. im just on metformin. i wont go low by eating metformin,my doctor already told me. just that if i dont eat too sugary my glucose will be the same as normal humans. 3years since i kena diabetes and i didnt even faint once or admitted to the hospital halfway while exercising for more than 7hours without food and drink. my diabetes is considered Mild. not severe. i dont go low when i go without food and i always dont eat until 7+ dinnertime. which mean i always skip breakfast and lunch. only eat dinner.

Rednano SG

the main point is...

no hospital specialist memo to certify safety, no talk...

Sky22141 SG

So i ask my doctor to write a memo to certify that im safe to up Pes or Do light physical duties or what? idk how to start the conversation with my doctor. Or CMPB will refer me to their Specialist??

Lokey SG

So i ask my doctor to write a memo to certify that im safe to up Pes or Do light physical duties or what? idk how to start the conversation with my doctor. Or CMPB will refer me to their Specialist??

I think it's better dont waste your time NOW.

You can try by going into the army first, then ask the MO to refer for upgrading before you are getting ORD. Wait one and half year then you do a medical review again.

"newbie" SG

I really salute you wanting an upgrade while others keep thinking how to down grade.

But frankly training inside during BMT is easy, what other training you going to do in combat vocation is very different in what you doing outside.

Anyway, the best person to judge is your own docter monitoring your situation, does your own doc think is ok to request the upgrade? If your own doc think is ok, get him to write a recommendation and you straight away submit to CMPB before enlistment...

Sky22141 SG

hahah. because when i was young my ambition is to be part of Singapore Police Force, protecting country and people around me. as long as i can protect people and the country i would do anything. i already kena diabetes so i have to give up my ambitions to be part of SPF SAF and other uniformed careers as a combat role. But im still going for Security Line if possible.. Its best that i can upgrade Pes Status. People can say i crazy want upgrade Pes or what but i dont care i just want to work hard for my ambition and my dreams.

Sky22141 SG

I think it's better dont waste your time NOW.

You can try by going into the army first, then ask the MO to refer for upgrading before you are getting ORD. Wait one and half year then you do a medical review again.

So i look for MO after i get posted out to Unit or when im in BMT?