Bullied in NS: Call SAF Counselling Hotline @1800-278 0022 ?

Special Shu SG

My cousin has epilepsy and is an NSF clerk. He scored 5 As for his A Levels and enthusiastically handles the most intellectually challenging tasks. However, several ITE gangsters from his unit discovered what causes his fits and are intentionally triggering them. His epilepsy is getting worse.

My classmate has an autistic brother who also did well for his A Levels and was looking forward to being an NSF clerk, believing the experience would prepare him for the real world. The poor guy is being physically assaulted by ITE gangsters in his unit, to the extent that he became suicidal and, from what I heard, even talked about getting a gun to shoot his tormentors.

As a girl with a severe physical disability, who never faced such horrible bullying while in JC, I am relieved that I need not serve NS. I will not disclose excessive details, as I do not wish to get myself or cousin into trouble. Nevertheless, I am very concerned for cousin and other NSFs with special needs who are bullied by ITE gangsters. Does anyone know of similar cases?

What are the proper channels for dealing with such bullying cases? How can victims improve their chances of getting quality help through the proper channels, which may be difficult for people with special needs? For example, conditions like autism cause communication difficulties, while cousin is afraid that he may be discharged and NUS would thus not accept him.

Summer hill SG

with good results, i think NUS would appreciated him because despite his disability, he did so well!

as for the ITE bullies, ah.......i dk leh.

tell your cousin to practise self-control, scream whenever they are around.

eac SG

Source: http://iprep.ns.sg/addressing-grievances.html

If you think you have been treated unfairly, you can bring up the case to your Commander. We will listen to your case. Do remember to bring along all facts and supporting documents.

We will do our best to address your concerns. Servicemen are to seek redress through proper channels. Together, we can address your issue more expeditiously.

You can also call the following counselling hotlines for assistance:

OranDe SG

@SpecialShu

Bullying cases do happen in military environment. I heard of several other cases through different forums too. It does not limit to ITE gangsters. There're also diploma and A levels graduates who does such things. People with special needs are often mistreated due to lack of awareness among superiors & subordinates.

I still feel that military environment are not meant for people with severe conditions. The military culture itself is different from the civilian world. They may survive as civilian clerk but not as military clerk. I know because I've very severe condition (prefer not disclose which condition) that made me disfunctional in military but able to study and functional in some other environments.

About your autism friend's brother, tell him not to be afraid to be discharged if he is given the choice. Try to tell him not to force himself because it'll only worsen his state and chances of becoming extreme. Getting discharged or medically exempted won't affect the chances of enrolling into local uni. I know this because there're people exempted from either physical or mental reasons had already enrolled into local uni. People with autism are especially welcome in uni because aspergers have naturally high IQ. Fyi, Einstein has autism too.

One thing about asperger syndrome is that they may become disfunctional / worsened in certain environments which have heavy peer pressure, controlled, bounded & strict rules. Sometimes, it's better to gain experience in environments that suit his needs elsewhere if he wants to prepare for the real world. There're many paths. Military environment may not be meant for him.

mancha SG

Gangsters do not go to ITE.

You should stop discriminating against ITE students.

Bullying means the victim should do something for himself, and not be a wimp.

OranDe SG

Bullying means the victim should do something for himself, and not be a wimp.

This sentence is true, but this can only be applied for healthy and normal people who have that function to actually do something for himself. Mental disorders/syndromes like mild autism have lower adaptivity level and higher sensitivity level than average humans. They have have less functions in relating to another. Thus, making them more vunerable towards these situations.

Many bullies pick out people who're naturally different from them. Bullies tend to harm another in order to destress themselves. Some seek personal pleasure from causing harm to another. This is why I mentioned that it's the culture in the environment. These victims are different not because they chose to be. They're born to be one. It's their differences from people that made them easy targets for bullying. This is why people with special needs are prone to situations like these.

maskedangel SG

Firstly, he getting bullied has got nothing to do with him scoring his 5As.
Second, You with a severe physical disability has got nothing to do with your own topic neither.

Simple solution, get your cousin to man up and report it to his immediate superior. Let him do it himself.

And please, stop discriminating people who were from the ite. They are much better to work with than you know who.

Dalforce 1941 SG

Please don't discriminate against ITE. Whether they are from Poly, ITE of JC, they are all under the repressive authoritarian PAP system.

Educating for Submission - Politics of social control in Singapore

http://books.google.com.sg/books?id=Vltf7oktAXAC&pg=PA74amp;

Special Shu SG

Eac and OranDe:

Thanks for the helpful replies. I will forward the information to cousin. He would be more willing to seek help, knowing that a discharge would not cause NUS to reject him. :)

Already informed classmate, who will discuss with her autistic brother. With his communication difficulties, he may need some help with presenting his case. Any advice? :)

Mancha, Maskedangel and Dalforce 1941:

Two people with special needs are facing severe bullying. One wants to get a gun to shoot his tormentors (the opposite of being a wimp). Instead of giving constructive advice, you are defending ITE students. Cousin said his bullies are from ITE and as a clerk, he probably has access to their records.

alize SG

You and your friends should learn how to defend yourselves. If you rely on others who have no incentive to protect you, or who identify with your enemies, you're digging your own grave. Be methodical, gather your own information and start making your own plans to protect yourself.

mancha SG

Every bullying case, ends when the victim give the tormentor one punch. Yes.

Strike back, anyway possible. Special needs do not always refer to the totally helpless.

Everyone has special needs, to perform more than their limit.

Each must be taught to overcome, and not to rely on proxies.

OranDe SG

Already informed classmate, who will discuss with her autistic brother. With his communication difficulties, he may need some help with presenting his case. Any advice? :)

As for communication difficulties, he can ask a family member to help present his case. They'll understand because they know some ns guys have social impaired conditions like this. I've an asperger classmate in diploma studies where she has to write everything on paper before talking to friends or presentations by reading from it.

It can be a good habit if he's able to write a journal too. It can help his saf psychiatrist to understand him further.

cout << user SG

But the gangsters should be also pes e right?

Summer hill SG

don't use the excuse of disability

Lokey SG

See a doctor and downgrade further to Pes F or request for a long MC to rest.

alize SG

Acquire self defence skills.

Summer hill SG

Eac and OranDe:

Thanks for the helpful replies. I will forward the information to cousin. He would be more willing to seek help, knowing that a discharge would not cause NUS to reject him. :)

Already informed classmate, who will discuss with her autistic brother. With his communication difficulties, he may need some help with presenting his case. Any advice? :)

Mancha, Maskedangel and Dalforce 1941:

Two people with special needs are facing severe bullying. One wants to get a gun to shoot his tormentors (the opposite of being a wimp). Instead of giving constructive advice, you are defending ITE students. Cousin said his bullies are from ITE and as a clerk, he probably has access to their records.

that's a murder/sucidal/sadist thought, not an action

Summer hill SG

My cousin has epilepsy and is an NSF clerk. He scored 5 As for his A Levels and enthusiastically handles the most intellectually challenging tasks. However, several ITE gangsters from his unit discovered what causes his fits and are intentionally triggering them. His epilepsy is getting worse.

My classmate has an autistic brother who also did well for his A Levels and was looking forward to being an NSF clerk, believing the experience would prepare him for the real world. The poor guy is being physically assaulted by ITE gangsters in his unit, to the extent that he became suicidal and, from what I heard, even talked about getting a gun to shoot his tormentors.

As a girl with a severe physical disability, who never faced such horrible bullying while in JC, I am relieved that I need not serve NS. I will not disclose excessive details, as I do not wish to get myself or cousin into trouble. Nevertheless, I am very concerned for cousin and other NSFs with special needs who are bullied by ITE gangsters. Does anyone know of similar cases?

you know what? you are doing the same thing as the bullies. stereotyping that all gansters comes from ITE and thinking your cousin is above them because of his results.

yup, this is the real world. a harsher world. you are weak, you get push down by the strongest. there's no place for you in a highly competive society.

Sucidal? Is he going to murder-sucide? Like a shooting everyone then killing himself? Nah, given his current case, I think he will go and die quietly.

Special needs? Huh? Can't they just report to their superiors?

Something from me, TS.

http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/371286

This is my previous topic. I was bullied by my classmates, all i know is that why am i so stupid and why excessively seeking acceptance from them. I don't need friends/classmates like them. i am in a much better envoirment now, and please, i was from the top 3 class then, smart doesn't mean the people don't bully/discriminate you.

http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/421006

i am currently in the last class of express, the people in my class are generally fun to have and we tease each other for fun, in the end of the day, we are still friends. of course, my classmates and i quarrel and get upset, in the end of the day, i still had a fun and the time of my life.

http://boardreader.com/thread/Who_is_right_and_who_is_wrong_d7p6X9jn8.html

Have a nice day, you just read a portion of my life story summarise

Hitman Chief (Barium) SG

how bad can it be?

Dalforce 1941 SG

Cousin said his bullies are from ITE and as a clerk, he probably has access to their records.

What if they were from poly or JC? Would your cousin say that poly or JC students bullied him?

However, several poly/JC gangsters from his unit discovered what causes his fits and are intentionally triggering them. His epilepsy is getting worse.